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re: Gov. Landry has pulled the plug on Louisiana’s biggest coastal project, Tulane expert says
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:30 am to ragincajun03
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:30 am to ragincajun03
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21 square miles of land over 50 years.
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$3.1 billion diversion
I know the trend here is to over react and pile onto politicians, but I'm sorry, I have NO Issues with shite canning this.
21 square miles in 60 years for 3.1billion? Sheesh.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:30 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I don’t trust Billy Landry JBE Jindal or any of them or the Corps of Engineers just don’t know if this project is worth it. It may be I also bet the price tag will balloon given inflation and other unexpected costs and La taxpayers will be on the hook.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:30 am to ragincajun03
That project should have been implemented before Landry. It was on the books for years. The planning and NEPA efforts should have been completed more aggressively as well as a dialogue with St. Bernard.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:37 am to TheosDeddy
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It needs to hurt and hurt more before it can change
How much more can it hurt?
LA is the perfect example of “give the masses bread and circuses”.
The majority population of LA is too uneducated and too distracted to care about politics.
Scruffy has said it before, there is no fixing LA.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:41 am to ragincajun03
I’m not sure of the details, but saving 3.1 billion seems like a decent idea. 
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:42 am to ChatGPT of LA
quote:Landry is an idiot, but there is some merit to your comment.
He did correct on this, for sure. frick diversion canals. You should dig deeper
The LA coastline is a prime example of how we have used our power and ingenuity to prevent nature from performing the function it was meant to.
We control the river’s path to maintain our economy and infrastructure. This results in coastal erosion.
Pick your poison.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:52 am to ragincajun03
Was this diversion canal going to be the end-all-be-all to save the coast? No. It was, however, one tool in the toolbox to help save the coast. I worked on coastal projects after Katrina, but stuff like this is why I moved away. Politicians getting in the way of solutions. We had some of the smartest people in the world working on these solutions, and they never get done because of political bullshite. You don't want these expert's help, fine. Have fun with your coastline. The brain drain will continue with people like Landry in charge.
And let's talk about the "culture" that he's trying to save. I was visiting some family down Bayou Lafourche and Bayou Dularge last year, and the culture is pretty much already gone. It's depressing as hell down there after the most recent storms. I'm sorry if this is where you live, but surely you must see that it's not what it once was, right? What is Landry realty trying to save? It's not your culture. It's special interests.
And let's talk about the "culture" that he's trying to save. I was visiting some family down Bayou Lafourche and Bayou Dularge last year, and the culture is pretty much already gone. It's depressing as hell down there after the most recent storms. I'm sorry if this is where you live, but surely you must see that it's not what it once was, right? What is Landry realty trying to save? It's not your culture. It's special interests.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:55 am to Optimism
quote:lol
when there are probably safer and cheaper ways to do it with less environmental harm
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:57 am to Jim Rockford
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He wants to be President. No, really
So did David Vitter. Coincidentally (or not), Vitter’s chief of staff is now Landry’s chief of staff. Lots of pandering to special interests.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:58 am to Northshoretiger87
Irony that commercial fishing it would be the affected area has been in decline my entire life -
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:58 am to ragincajun03
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Computer models show the diversion on the Plaquemines Parish West Bank would create 21 square miles of land over 50 years.
So a "theoretical" 20 square miles, at a cost of $3B, and a timeframe of 50 years.
That sounds like a horrible ROI. Why are some of y'all upset?
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:59 am to AtlantaLSUfan
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saving 3.1 billion seems like a decent idea.
I don’t think the state can save it. It’s BP money, and some Fed, that will go away if not used for a major project like this.
And it’s too late to think up another project and spend another seven years on studies.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:03 am to dragginass
Computer models also said climate change wiuod destroy the world 10 years ago and the Covid vaccine prevented transmission. Sorry if I don’t always believe the ““experts.” But I also don’t trust Louisiana politicians so that’s why I don’t really know the right answer for this and I don’t think anybody on this board really does whether you like Landry orJBE or Wags or Sean Wilson or Billy N etc etc
Many of the same “experts “ told us the levees were strong before Katrina and can’t even predict hurricanes 48 hrs out much less tell us the log term implications of doing this
Many of the same “experts “ told us the levees were strong before Katrina and can’t even predict hurricanes 48 hrs out much less tell us the log term implications of doing this
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:08 am to soccerfüt
The diversion canal idea is dumb
As mentioned earlier 3 plus billion for 21 sq miles is crap.
We need to stop trying to play mover nature, at least completely.
Open up bayou lafourche at donaldsonville and let nature do its thing like it intended.
As mentioned earlier 3 plus billion for 21 sq miles is crap.
We need to stop trying to play mover nature, at least completely.
Open up bayou lafourche at donaldsonville and let nature do its thing like it intended.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:12 am to Melkor
Visit Mardi Gras Pass and you will see the natural re development of the marshes. Diversion projects work!!!!
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:14 am to udtiger
That is why the Atchafalaya basin is the only self rejuvenating area left.
And also that’s why I think we need to open bayou lafourche and let the sediment start building up again. If you have been to Grand isle lately, you see the vast body of water between the island and lower lafourche, it’s amazing and terrible all at the same time.
A crappy diversion canal is t going to do anything but pad the pockets of local contractors
And also that’s why I think we need to open bayou lafourche and let the sediment start building up again. If you have been to Grand isle lately, you see the vast body of water between the island and lower lafourche, it’s amazing and terrible all at the same time.
A crappy diversion canal is t going to do anything but pad the pockets of local contractors
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:14 am to ragincajun03
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I don’t think the state can save it. It’s BP money, and some Fed, that will go away if not used for a major project like this.
It’s good until 2031.
Some of the money has been used obviously.
And some money is sitting in unclaimed property because it’s supposed to go to individuals and businesses that were affected that just hasn’t claimed it yet.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:16 am to BottomlandBrew
At the same time the smartest people
In the world are who leveed the River and started the erosion
In the world are who leveed the River and started the erosion
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:23 am to SuperSaint
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Landry is an idiot
No Sir, the USCoE who actually thought they could change / divert the flow of the Mississippi River out of the Bartaria Basin back in the early 1900’s are the idiots. THEY are the one’s responsible for this mess.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 7:24 am
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:29 am to Bob Sacamano 89
Couple of things from my knowledge on the situation:
No one would be "saving" any money from not doing this project. The state does not "get any money back". The funds came from the BP settlement and are and have been earmarked for coastal resoration projects. If this project is not done, then the funds will go to another coastal project - maybe in Louisiana, but maybe in another state on the gulf coast. What will happen, however, if this doesn't go, is someone is going to have to pay back the half a billion dollars that was spent to get this project started and mobilized. And it won't be the contractors - of which there are quite a few. That will likely fall on the state of Louisiana - pretty much the taxpayers. The delays are costing weekly. All of the contractors that are sitting out there for month after month after month doing nothing are billing CPRA weekly for their equipment and manpower being there. I've been there, and its a lot. I have no idea of the coastal impact - i'm not an engineer. I've been told that along with "replacing" the land mass - the sediment will also be fighting against further land loss. So - if this didnt happen, then those areas would be losing land like they are right now. This project would stop that loss and build it back. At least - thats what ive been told.
No one would be "saving" any money from not doing this project. The state does not "get any money back". The funds came from the BP settlement and are and have been earmarked for coastal resoration projects. If this project is not done, then the funds will go to another coastal project - maybe in Louisiana, but maybe in another state on the gulf coast. What will happen, however, if this doesn't go, is someone is going to have to pay back the half a billion dollars that was spent to get this project started and mobilized. And it won't be the contractors - of which there are quite a few. That will likely fall on the state of Louisiana - pretty much the taxpayers. The delays are costing weekly. All of the contractors that are sitting out there for month after month after month doing nothing are billing CPRA weekly for their equipment and manpower being there. I've been there, and its a lot. I have no idea of the coastal impact - i'm not an engineer. I've been told that along with "replacing" the land mass - the sediment will also be fighting against further land loss. So - if this didnt happen, then those areas would be losing land like they are right now. This project would stop that loss and build it back. At least - thats what ive been told.
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