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re: Gov. Landry has pulled the plug on Louisiana’s biggest coastal project, Tulane expert says

Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:30 am to
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
5021 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:30 am to
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21 square miles of land over 50 years.


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$3.1 billion diversion


I know the trend here is to over react and pile onto politicians, but I'm sorry, I have NO Issues with shite canning this.

21 square miles in 60 years for 3.1billion? Sheesh.
Posted by Optimism
Member since Jun 2024
922 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:30 am to
I don’t trust Billy Landry JBE Jindal or any of them or the Corps of Engineers just don’t know if this project is worth it. It may be I also bet the price tag will balloon given inflation and other unexpected costs and La taxpayers will be on the hook.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
10396 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:30 am to
That project should have been implemented before Landry. It was on the books for years. The planning and NEPA efforts should have been completed more aggressively as well as a dialogue with St. Bernard.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77261 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:37 am to
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It needs to hurt and hurt more before it can change


How much more can it hurt?

LA is the perfect example of “give the masses bread and circuses”.

The majority population of LA is too uneducated and too distracted to care about politics.

Scruffy has said it before, there is no fixing LA.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27224 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:41 am to
I’m not sure of the details, but saving 3.1 billion seems like a decent idea.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77261 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:42 am to
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He did correct on this, for sure. frick diversion canals. You should dig deeper
Landry is an idiot, but there is some merit to your comment.

The LA coastline is a prime example of how we have used our power and ingenuity to prevent nature from performing the function it was meant to.

We control the river’s path to maintain our economy and infrastructure. This results in coastal erosion.

Pick your poison.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29888 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:52 am to
Was this diversion canal going to be the end-all-be-all to save the coast? No. It was, however, one tool in the toolbox to help save the coast. I worked on coastal projects after Katrina, but stuff like this is why I moved away. Politicians getting in the way of solutions. We had some of the smartest people in the world working on these solutions, and they never get done because of political bullshite. You don't want these expert's help, fine. Have fun with your coastline. The brain drain will continue with people like Landry in charge.

And let's talk about the "culture" that he's trying to save. I was visiting some family down Bayou Lafourche and Bayou Dularge last year, and the culture is pretty much already gone. It's depressing as hell down there after the most recent storms. I'm sorry if this is where you live, but surely you must see that it's not what it once was, right? What is Landry realty trying to save? It's not your culture. It's special interests.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:55 am to
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when there are probably safer and cheaper ways to do it with less environmental harm
lol
Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
In the Shadows, Behind Hedges
Member since Aug 2020
832 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:57 am to
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He wants to be President. No, really


So did David Vitter. Coincidentally (or not), Vitter’s chief of staff is now Landry’s chief of staff. Lots of pandering to special interests.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35075 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:58 am to
Irony that commercial fishing it would be the affected area has been in decline my entire life -
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3255 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:58 am to
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Computer models show the diversion on the Plaquemines Parish West Bank would create 21 square miles of land over 50 years.



So a "theoretical" 20 square miles, at a cost of $3B, and a timeframe of 50 years.


That sounds like a horrible ROI. Why are some of y'all upset?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29212 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 6:59 am to
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saving 3.1 billion seems like a decent idea.


I don’t think the state can save it. It’s BP money, and some Fed, that will go away if not used for a major project like this.

And it’s too late to think up another project and spend another seven years on studies.
Posted by Optimism
Member since Jun 2024
922 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:03 am to
Computer models also said climate change wiuod destroy the world 10 years ago and the Covid vaccine prevented transmission. Sorry if I don’t always believe the ““experts.” But I also don’t trust Louisiana politicians so that’s why I don’t really know the right answer for this and I don’t think anybody on this board really does whether you like Landry orJBE or Wags or Sean Wilson or Billy N etc etc
Many of the same “experts “ told us the levees were strong before Katrina and can’t even predict hurricanes 48 hrs out much less tell us the log term implications of doing this
Posted by Bob Sacamano 89
Member since Apr 2023
186 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:08 am to
The diversion canal idea is dumb
As mentioned earlier 3 plus billion for 21 sq miles is crap.
We need to stop trying to play mover nature, at least completely.
Open up bayou lafourche at donaldsonville and let nature do its thing like it intended.
Posted by Nola1962
Member since Jul 2020
275 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:12 am to
Visit Mardi Gras Pass and you will see the natural re development of the marshes. Diversion projects work!!!!
Posted by Bob Sacamano 89
Member since Apr 2023
186 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:14 am to
That is why the Atchafalaya basin is the only self rejuvenating area left.
And also that’s why I think we need to open bayou lafourche and let the sediment start building up again. If you have been to Grand isle lately, you see the vast body of water between the island and lower lafourche, it’s amazing and terrible all at the same time.
A crappy diversion canal is t going to do anything but pad the pockets of local contractors
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89779 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:14 am to
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I don’t think the state can save it. It’s BP money, and some Fed, that will go away if not used for a major project like this.



It’s good until 2031.

Some of the money has been used obviously.


And some money is sitting in unclaimed property because it’s supposed to go to individuals and businesses that were affected that just hasn’t claimed it yet.
Posted by Bob Sacamano 89
Member since Apr 2023
186 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:16 am to
At the same time the smartest people
In the world are who leveed the River and started the erosion
Posted by BourreTheDog
Member since May 2016
2774 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:23 am to
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Landry is an idiot


No Sir, the USCoE who actually thought they could change / divert the flow of the Mississippi River out of the Bartaria Basin back in the early 1900’s are the idiots. THEY are the one’s responsible for this mess.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 7:24 am
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
484 posts
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:29 am to
Couple of things from my knowledge on the situation:
No one would be "saving" any money from not doing this project. The state does not "get any money back". The funds came from the BP settlement and are and have been earmarked for coastal resoration projects. If this project is not done, then the funds will go to another coastal project - maybe in Louisiana, but maybe in another state on the gulf coast. What will happen, however, if this doesn't go, is someone is going to have to pay back the half a billion dollars that was spent to get this project started and mobilized. And it won't be the contractors - of which there are quite a few. That will likely fall on the state of Louisiana - pretty much the taxpayers. The delays are costing weekly. All of the contractors that are sitting out there for month after month after month doing nothing are billing CPRA weekly for their equipment and manpower being there. I've been there, and its a lot. I have no idea of the coastal impact - i'm not an engineer. I've been told that along with "replacing" the land mass - the sediment will also be fighting against further land loss. So - if this didnt happen, then those areas would be losing land like they are right now. This project would stop that loss and build it back. At least - thats what ive been told.
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