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re: Gov. Landry has pulled the plug on Louisiana’s biggest coastal project, Tulane expert says
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:30 am to Jake88
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:30 am to Jake88
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would create 21 square miles of land over 50 years
That's all?
This is global warming / pandemic all over again
Wanna know why its gonna take 50 years to grab 21 acres? Because when it fails, there will be no one to remember what it was supposed to do. Is Al Gore taking any heat for his carbon capture BS? Fauci for the faked pandemic?
This is 3B dollars wasted, yet somehow finding its way into targeted peoples pockets. With no long term benefit, and no end result. And the knuckle draggers on here are eating it up. Yet again
Its why the BR area didnt get a Bucees. All the hands were out before the plans were even finalized, and the company said frick this. Landry just did the same thing. And the grifters are pissed. 50 years of grift, gone like a puff of smoke
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:32 am to Bob Sacamano 89
I understand that argument and cede you that point. I'll counter with the argument that the experts around after Katrina had a proven track record of saving coast lines and preventing land loss, subsidence, and flooding. Delta Works and Zuiderzee Works in the Netherlands has worked.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:33 am to Jake88
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would create 21 square miles of land over 50 years
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That’s all?
Gaining 21 square miles as opposed to losing a bunch more land to erosion instead
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:43 am to soccerfüt
So, in just one response, youde frick up culture, and disrupt, if not bankrupt, an industry operated in the region...to gain 25 miles over 50 years?
At what point do you stop fricking with the natural flow of the river? Haven't we fricked it up enough with man's stupid projects?
I dont claim to be any expert except being smart enough to know we dont have the money 1st and foremost.
At what point do you stop fricking with the natural flow of the river? Haven't we fricked it up enough with man's stupid projects?
I dont claim to be any expert except being smart enough to know we dont have the money 1st and foremost.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 7:46 am
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:45 am to Optimism
quote:Leveeing the river all the way to Venice is what caused the environmental harm. No sediment to rebuild land that gets washed away every hurricane. No freshwater influence from the river allows saltwater intrusion and unnaturally high salinity in the estuary. Look around the marshes and you can still see a few dead trees that haven’t been washed away in storms yet. Oak and cypress don’t grow in salt water, so those dead trees should tell you that area was once much fresher water than it is now.
less environmental harm
The oyster fishermen are throwing a fit because the diversion would bring salinity levels in the estuary closer to what it naturally would be if humans hadn’t confined the river inside of levees. It won’t kill the industry, they’re just going to have to travel a few extra miles to get their oysters
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:47 am to ragincajun03
South Louisiana deserves everything they get from electing their shite governors. Landry destroying the seafood industry, the housing and auto insurance market getting worse, and not building any new bridges is a great start in just his first year on the job.
South La has 3 more years of their man Landry, and 95% will vote to re-elect him again. As Ron White says, "You can't fix stupid". South La voters are stupid.
South La has 3 more years of their man Landry, and 95% will vote to re-elect him again. As Ron White says, "You can't fix stupid". South La voters are stupid.
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 8:04 am
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:48 am to ChatGPT of LA
quote:Lets blow up all the levees south of Belle Chasse then. Otherwise, this is the next best option to get the river’s natural sediment deposits and marsh salinity
At what point do you stop fricking with the natural flow of the river? Haven't we fricked it up enough with man's stupid projects?
quote:The money is coming from BP settlement and federal funds. If we don’t use it, we lose it and the state is going to be on the hook for breach of contract with contractors hired to do the project
except being smart enough to know we dont have the money 1st and foremost.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:50 am to RobbBobb
I don't get why people keep saying that the money is "wasted". It's there and it has to be spent on coastal projects along the Gulf Coast. And yes - it is a use it or lose it situation. Louisiana taxpayers don't just get back 3 billion dollars if it's not spent on this particular project. The way that it's been described to me is that is is gaining land mass back as it is fighting the loss through erosion. But - back to the money. It is finding it's way into people's pockets. And a lot of those people are local to the area - local contractors that hire local laborers. And those people are now renting apartments from local landlords and eating at restaurants and shopping at local stores. There is definitely a lot of money going around but a lot is staying local and bleeding back into the economy. The company that I work for set up shop in the NOLA area because of the small portion of the project that we were awarded. We now have expanded to another location and are working on a 3rd and have hired 4 local employees and used countless local contractors to help set up our facilities. And we are a very very very small part of that overall project. Which may not happen now.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:53 am to Giantkiller
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I’m not sure if Landry just thinks he’s invincible or something
Doing away with the jungle primary guarantees him a second term. Unless you’ve got a repub with a billion dollars willing to wreck shop.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 7:57 am to lsuchip30
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And a lot of those people are local to the area
These arent the people getting the grift. These are the people doing the work, paid by the grifters
See also the movie industry, Hollywood is still getting rich filming in La. because they get to keep the taxes. The people of La are not getting rich from films. See also GA. Their film industry is on its last legs because of politics. No one got rich, and the industry is still raking in billions elsewhere
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The film and TV industry has been slow to recover in Georgia. Production has dipped below pre-pandemic levels. Thousands of specialized workers, including camera operators, visual-effects artists and technicians in film, are now scrambling to find jobs.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:00 am to Bob Sacamano 89
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Open up bayou lafourche at donaldsonville and let nature do its thing like it intended.
Haven't we been doing that, though slowly and man-controlled rather than nature-controlled?
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:06 am to Giantkiller
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I think if JBE decided to run again, he would effectively one-term Gov Landry.
No chance. For all of Landry's warts, JBE was an unmitigated disaster.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:07 am to Tiger Prawn
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The money is coming from BP settlement and federal funds.
Uh huh
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state is going to be on the hook for breach of contract with contractors hired to do the project
So, they'll settle.
Drop the stupid legacy and erosion lawsuits, bring back the enormous industries we chased out with the suits, and they will help us restore things without the threat of being sued for doing legally permitted things.
Understand, the studies and government geniuses are what got us here.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:07 am to Optimism
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Computer models also said climate change wiuod destroy the world 10 years ago and the Covid vaccine prevented transmission. Sorry if I don’t always believe the ““experts.”
Oh, so you're the "I did my own research" guy.
You could have just told us that you prefer to have your head buried in the sand and not come in here acting like you wanted better information.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:10 am to ChatGPT of LA
One thing we cannot afford is to have to pay the half a billion back to the federal government BP fund that was already paid out to the contractors. This was paid for mobilization and keeps getting billed because contractors have hundreds of people out there and millions of dollars of equipment sitting out there for months not making money on other jobs. Again - it's not "our" money. It is money that was litigated from the BP oil spill that has been awarded to fund coastal projects along the Gulf Coast. We can definitely afford the project, because we (as a state) taxpayers are not paying anything. The money is already there. And is is and has been funneling its way into local pockets.
And the natural flow of the river prior to the levee system being built up over the last century was to dump sediment and freshwater into these areas to keep them built up and to keep saltwater intrusion at bay. The natural flow of the river was fricked with a long long time ago. This is just the best way of diverting sediment and fresh water back into a certain area without fricking with the levee system too much up and down the lower Mississippi.
And the natural flow of the river prior to the levee system being built up over the last century was to dump sediment and freshwater into these areas to keep them built up and to keep saltwater intrusion at bay. The natural flow of the river was fricked with a long long time ago. This is just the best way of diverting sediment and fresh water back into a certain area without fricking with the levee system too much up and down the lower Mississippi.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:17 am to ChatGPT of LA
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Drop the stupid legacy and erosion lawsuits
Won't happen with the current Governor. That one big issue where he sided with previous Governor Bel Edwards.
This past session, the 4th Floor worked against and helped kill Alan Seabaugh's bill that would have provided at least some statutory parameters in regards to the legacy suits/issues on private lands. Trial lawyers didn't want that, though, because that's less time they're able to spend "researching" and billing their clients at $250 per typed word on multiple demand letters and follow-up court petitions.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:20 am to ragincajun03
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the $3.1 billion diversion would destroy Louisiana’s culture.
What a lying sack of shite. There won’t be any land left down there without this project. He and all the commercial fishermen can go frick themselves.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:25 am to BottomlandBrew
I don’t know I’m much about those honestly.
I remember them showing Netherland’s locks as examples when they were built in south LA.
I really don’t understand why they don’t take that 3 billion and put 2 or 3 rows of Rock barriers, like they did for grand isle, all along the coast. That plus natural sediment will restore the coast.
I spoke to someone in the know, who works frequently with the USCoE- was told they don’t use rocks bc “they just don’t believe in them.” Rather dredge and build levees
It’s a crazy and frustrating argument because the it’s same argument being had for the past 120 plus years.
IMO we built the levees, created an industry, and now are paying the price. The oil industry has greatly changed and not as plentiful as it was. It’s time to breach some of the levees and let Mother Nature do some restoration work. As one of the people who lives down here, I am willing to move or adjust. The current path we are on is not sustainable for or children and grandchildren anyway.
I remember them showing Netherland’s locks as examples when they were built in south LA.
I really don’t understand why they don’t take that 3 billion and put 2 or 3 rows of Rock barriers, like they did for grand isle, all along the coast. That plus natural sediment will restore the coast.
I spoke to someone in the know, who works frequently with the USCoE- was told they don’t use rocks bc “they just don’t believe in them.” Rather dredge and build levees
It’s a crazy and frustrating argument because the it’s same argument being had for the past 120 plus years.
IMO we built the levees, created an industry, and now are paying the price. The oil industry has greatly changed and not as plentiful as it was. It’s time to breach some of the levees and let Mother Nature do some restoration work. As one of the people who lives down here, I am willing to move or adjust. The current path we are on is not sustainable for or children and grandchildren anyway.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:31 am to ragincajun03
It's pointless to spend a billion dollars on adjusting the bottom of the Barataria esp when the next big hurricane will come and change it again. Wtf was this even being funded tbw. Wow.
Stop hating on Landry. Any idiot knows the floor changes often esp with weather.
Stop hating on Landry. Any idiot knows the floor changes often esp with weather.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 8:33 am to The Cool No 9
“ who else was there to pick from? A runoff wasn't even necessary”
In the last election we had a business man, Rispone, who was nixed because of Honor Code. He would’ve been a a leader. Instead Republicans for Edwards elect a semiretarded Sloth and then give us a career politician who is just as corrupt as Honor Code right after, this time with a R on the back.
If we chose to elect competent people, this state would have a chance. For some reason Louisianians don’t do that. We take the bottom feeders.
In the last election we had a business man, Rispone, who was nixed because of Honor Code. He would’ve been a a leader. Instead Republicans for Edwards elect a semiretarded Sloth and then give us a career politician who is just as corrupt as Honor Code right after, this time with a R on the back.
If we chose to elect competent people, this state would have a chance. For some reason Louisianians don’t do that. We take the bottom feeders.
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