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re: Given another secession, would there even be a civil war this time?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:32 pm to PrivatePublic
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:32 pm to PrivatePublic

This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:33 pm to Penrod
quote:but there's the problem. Once the progressives have dumped in their own bed, they would leave for a conservative state and just bring their crap with them.
progressives could move to states with riots, high taxes, and reparations,
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:33 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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Conservatives pay their 24% tax rates to the Republican government and Democrats pay their 50% tax rates to their government.
So what's different from today? We have states that already receive less than what they paid into the system and others that receive more than they paid into it.
Things are so polarized politically it almost seems like we have a 2 state government battling on every single topic. It's brutal
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:33 pm to RIPMachoMan
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largest economy in California
can use their money to buy potable water, electricity, carbon based fuels, and plastic products.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:36 pm to GallatinTiger
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they would leave for a conservative state and just bring their crap with them.
You'd have to establish 10? 15? 20? years of residency inside a state to be able to vote in local/state elections
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:37 pm to RemyLeBeau
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can use their money to buy potable water, electricity, carbon based fuels, and plastic products.
True, but I guess we can then hope they will trade a fair deal on their technical advancements. I guess states can make a deal with a couple of Asia's top producers as well
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:42 pm to Miketheseventh
I’m not mad at anyone right now. Stupid people are still stupid. Regular people are working. Kids are doing kid stuff. Gravy is still fat.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 7:08 pm to RoyalWe
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Should the Federal government do anything if local and state governments refuse to protect their citizens? These are American citizens being terrorized by criminals. Should we allow states rights (as in their right to be pussies and do nothing) go without concern? If your answer is 'yes' then you're a moron
Yes, let them do as they please. As long as they are not interfering with the rights of citizens of the other states. What you are suggesting, that the feds run the states, is what has caused the problems. Our state and local governments have become insulated from their folly. This has caused them to become infantilized, and has resulting in their beclowning themselves. Let them face the consequences of their decisions. They will mature and correct their problems.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 7:49 pm to PrivatePublic
Secession would be viewed as racist. The fighting would be in state first. What kinda domino affect that has I’d anyone’s guess
Posted on 6/26/20 at 7:55 pm to PrivatePublic
The Feds have atomic bombs. States don’t.
Secession over
Secession over
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:06 pm to PrivatePublic
No, nor should there have been the first time, any state should be able to leave for whatever reason it wishes.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:19 pm to Penrod
quote:This is short sighted. I would agree with you if the unalienable rights of those in the ill-governed states weren't being affected. Those rights being Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. There are some lines even incompetent or misguided public servants are not allowed to cross. We sure as hell meddle in human rights issues outside of the US. We damn well have an interest in protecting our own citizens.
Yes, let them do as they please. As long as they are not interfering with the rights of citizens of the other states.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:06 pm to cypresstiger
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Feds have atomic bombs. States don’t.
Secession over
Lol, hopefully you’re not serious.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:58 pm to PrivatePublic
Who is seceding from whom?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:59 pm to RIPMachoMan
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So the largest economy in California (which I am pretty sure pays the most into the federal tax system but not positive), technical sector and epicenter of the modern economy in New York.
You think giving them the boot is wise?
Side note, Washington is a beautiful state but can totally be a part of Canada. Good music scene though
quote:Don't care, because I know for a FACT that they know giving US the boot is neither wise nor sustainable.
You think giving them the boot is wise?
The sooner the citizenry realizes that we got the nuts in this deal, the better.
And make no mistake: We WILL, eventually, realize this.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:29 pm to RIPMachoMan
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You think giving them the boot is wise?
Yup. And then charge them a butt load for their imported electricity.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:34 pm to PrivatePublic
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feel like neither side would have the balls to fire the shots.
Both sides would rather watch the other side fail so they could say “told you so” (while failing themselves)
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:37 pm to cypresstiger
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The Feds have atomic bombs. States don’t.
Secession over
This is just stupid.. Countless confrontations happen acroos the globe and a nuke is never brought into play..
If a nuke was ever unleashed again it would probably be the end of humanity as we know it..
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:42 pm to UpToPar
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Lol, hopefully you’re not serious.
Like this whole topic isn't ludicrous?
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:17 pm to NolaTiger52
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The south would be fricked.
It wouldn’t be a north vs south thing. It would be along ideological lines, which makes it way more complicated.
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