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yatesdog38
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
What about Space Force tho?


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Volvagia
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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It apparently is 20% identical to measles and 29% identical to rubella. Thoughts?


That this is a meaningless statement by itself.

What you need is an antigen which is very similar.

Not overall genetic similarly. Biochemistry tends to be very very conserved, and as a result the immune system is very very specific.

Cross immunity typically happens because of an overlap of a single surface protein.


Walt OReilly
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
Pretty genius virus China created. Got to give them props


SloaneRanger
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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Pretty genius virus China created. Got to give them props




Came out of the Wuhan wet market baw. Just like in the movies.


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WaWaWeeWa
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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Am I assuming incorrectly that "people that are naturally immune" would not test positive?


No one knows yet

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Is it possible that there are just a lot of different variations/mutations of this virus?


No. All of the mutations you hear about are minor and have no effect. It’s like removing or changing 1 word in a 1,000 page novel. It would have to be just the right word to change the story. Most of the time it won’t even be noticed.


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WaWaWeeWa
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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Not overall genetic similarly. Biochemistry tends to be very very conserved, and as a result the immune system is very very specific. Cross immunity typically happens because of an overlap of a single surface protein.


I agree. The MMR angle is probably the least compelling argument for the age disparity.

However I believe this T cell immunity issue is the biggest news I’ve heard in awhile. It’s a shame most people chose to focus on silliness like this video of the woman claiming Fauci is running a coverup


Volvagia
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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It’s a shame most people chose to focus on silliness like this video of the woman claiming Fauci is running a coverup


Its amazing to me that they ignore the fact that it would require all of the countries in the world to participate.


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Capt ST
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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It’s very strange that a contagious virus only has a 15% chance to infect others in the house


Yes it is, just from wife’s coworkers and sister and niece contracting it at hospital, 4 carriers have only infected 2 in their respective households that we know of to this point. So that falls pretty close to the 15%.


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genuineLSUtiger
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
Nature is simply doing what nature does. Culling the herd and pruning out the weaklings. Hard truth that people simply don’t want to accept. And if I end up dying from this thing well then jokes on me.


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BluegrassBelle
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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This means that POTENTIALLY there could be a large percentage of people that are naturally immune to the virus due to previous infections with other coronaviruses. (FYI kids pass around a lot of coronaviruses.)


I know a few teachers who have had COVID-19. All four were mild cases. That’d probably be a good target population to test this theory on given the viral load we experience with sick kids in a school setting (especially October-February).

I’ve always been curious what kind of immunity I’ve built up over the years working with snot nosed middle and high schoolers for a decade. Since I’ve been in we’ve had H1N1 and the re-emergence of Whooping Cough and Measles. And everything else you typically come across with kids.


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transcend
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
I love watching a bunch of people talk themselves into “evidence “ of whatever it is they want to believe. It’s entertaining. Sad, but entertaining nonetheless.


Bristol Dawg
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
Doesn’t matter. Trump will keep us shut down.


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Powerman
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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I agree. I'm still thinking that the very low #'s in the west coast (california with less than 2000 deaths) leads me to believe that this was spread slowly in the fall in the west coast.


It's likely 2 different strains

The virus mutated and the NE is probably infected with the Euro version of the virus and the west coast is predominantly more the original Wuhan one


AbuTheMonkey
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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I agree. I'm still thinking that the very low #'s in the west coast (california with less than 2000 deaths) leads me to believe that this was spread slowly in the fall in the west coast.

It's likely 2 different strains

The virus mutated and the NE is probably infected with the Euro version of the virus and the west coast is predominantly more the original Wuhan one


The Glasgow paper published today likely precludes that possibility.


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Buckeye Jeaux
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
How's your hosses Haskins and Lawrence doin


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WaWaWeeWa
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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I love watching a bunch of people talk themselves into “evidence “ of whatever it is they want to believe. It’s entertaining. Sad, but entertaining nonetheless.


So you just ignore the scientific paper in the OP?


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BRIllini07
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
The only information to counter that is the 192 of the 195 inmates in that LA woman's prison that tested positive.

Although, since that's the only situation that's come up where tight quarters extended contact has brought the %positives even above 50%, it seems equally likely to me that all the tests were done using the same contaminated or mis-calibrated instrument.

Other explanations: Demographic and historical behavioral distribution of prison tends to not be the same as general population. For instance, if extended drug use has some impact on susceptibility.

I agree looking at if from the outside, there has to be something limiting susceptibility to this virus in many people. Nothing else would explain how you can simultaneously infect several people at a restaurant while not infecting people that live with you. Also, as easily as this curve bent (Even in NYC) it seems like it would reach asymptotic behavior well short of N = (1-1/Ro)% of the population.


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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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can we go to Chili’s yet?




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WaWaWeeWa
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
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The only information to counter that is the 192 of the 195 inmates in that LA woman's prison that tested positive.


Yea its a good point. But jails and nursing homes don't interact with very many people. They may have less exposure to other coronaviruses.

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I agree looking at if from the outside, there has to be something limiting susceptibility to this virus in many people. Nothing else would explain how you can simultaneously infect several people at a restaurant while not infecting people that live with you. Also, as easily as this curve bent (Even in NYC) it seems like it would reach asymptotic behavior well short of N = (1-1/Ro)% of the population.


Exactly. Almost all curves are bending at the same point and time.

Are we to believe different countries are practicing the exact same social distancing, or is it more likely that there is some external factor we don't know about?
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LoneStarRanger
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re: German Study: 34% of healthy individuals may have a different type of immunity to COVID
Supermenschen genes


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