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re: Georgia shooter was given an AR - 15 for Christmas from his father!

Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:03 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75157 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:03 pm to
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Yes. Even on the Poli Board (mostly).

You should read the post you quoted again.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1139 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:31 pm to
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Both parents may not have started out being shitty but ended being crappy parents and need to be held accountable.


So are we going to start going after inner city parents when their kids shoot someone, or is this only for suburban and rural parents?

Never seem to hear this whenever some teenager (or younger) is involved in an inner city shooting.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29423 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:34 pm to
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So are we going to start going after inner city parents when their kids shoot someone, or is this only for suburban and rural parents? Never seem to hear this whenever some teenager (or younger) is involved in an inner city shooting.

If those parents are supplying guns to their children and know they are in gangs/drug racket, then yes.

It’s the fact the dumbass father bought the mentally ill kid a gun that’s the root of the issue here.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8665 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:08 am to
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If your minor child commits a crime, any crime, with a firearm from your home that the child otherwise wouldn't have had if not for your purchase and failure to secure said firearm you, as the parent or legal guardian, should face criminal liability. If the crime warrants it, you should serve prison time.


Let’s do this with the killings that happen everyday that might make the local news, that damn sure ain’t making the National news because it doesn’t fit a narrative and 30 minutes wouldn’t be enough. Don’t make an example out of one group, while the powers that be won’t do it against another group. If that actually happened, violent crimes would probably drop pretty quick if single mothers started to go to jail for those Bastard kids. Maybe it’s time a single mother of 6, with 4 different baby daddies feels society, instead of taking from it.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8665 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:26 am to
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If those parents are supplying guns to their children and know they are in gangs/drug racket, then yes.


Do you really think that’s not happening? The only difference is, it’s nots parents, it’s a parent in most cases. Don’t blame me for telling the truth, because it is the truth. We’re talking generations, not something that happened overnight. Charging a parent of a school shooter is a feel good story, because God forbid we also call out the lack of parenting since LBJ was in office and charge single mothers for what the sons do in the streets. That’s the difference. When Shequenica gets charged with involuntary manslaughter after her teenage son kills someone around the corner I’ll listen, until then it’s all BS.
Posted by Pauldingtiger
Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
987 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 3:31 am to
Father has been arrested and will go to jail just like the parents of the Michigan shooting did. Courts are holding the parents responsible for their kids actions in these types of shootings. Can see this spilling over into gang style shootings now that the president is being set. Society is beginning to get upset with unparented kids.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5336 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 5:29 am to
At the risk of wading into this discussion with cautious optimism- could it be that maybe, just maybe we all- Democrats, Republicans and Independents like myself (#humblebrag)- maybe we might have just found something that we can ALL agree on for once ? Maybe the answer to helping solve the insane school shooting problem that mostly happens only in America, could be to hold parents more accountable, and in some cases throw those parents UNDER the freaking jail ? I can’t imagine most people would be against that.. and for the love of god, im talking about holding parents of ALL colors and creeds accountable, so if you make it into a “race thing”- then the problem is YOU .
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
3140 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:14 am to
Just look at the boy, honestly what kind of a jackass would buy him a rifle, especially with his troubled past.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75157 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:41 am to
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Let’s do this with the killings that happen everyday that might make the local news, that damn sure ain’t making the National news because it doesn’t fit a narrative and 30 minutes wouldn’t be enough. Don’t make an example out of one group, while the powers that be won’t do it against another group. If that actually happened, violent crimes would probably drop pretty quick if single mothers started to go to jail for those Bastard kids. Maybe it’s time a single mother of 6, with 4 different baby daddies feels society, instead of taking from it.

So, you just ignored the entire second part of what I said, huh? Cool.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77267 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:50 am to
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Maybe the answer to helping solve the insane school shooting problem that mostly happens only in America, could be to hold parents more accountable, and in some cases throw those parents UNDER the freaking jail ? I can’t imagine most people would be against that.. and for the love of god, im talking about holding parents of ALL colors and creeds accountable, so if you make it into a “race thing”- then the problem is YOU .
Sure. I’m in.

Also, start charging the parents of teen gangbangers and those performing general criminal acts.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26316 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:58 am to
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Sure. I’m in. Also, start charging the parents of teen gangbangers and those performing general criminal acts.


Exactly. If your 16-17 year old carjacks someone, charge the parent. They should’ve known where their child was and what they were doing.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68443 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:30 am to
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We don't have a gun problem... we don't have an access to guns problem. We have a people problem and a parenting problem.


I think we can all agree that times have changed for the vast majority of America and the days of leaving guns hanging around like trophies in a house with children should be a thing of the past.

Is it sad that it's come to this? Sure. Blame social media, video games, and the isolation of kids that used to go play outside every day and have normal well-adjusted childhoods.
Posted by oreeg
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
5433 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:33 am to
This country has more of a mental illness and shitty parent problem than a gun problem.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:41 am to
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Is it sad that it's come to this? Sure. Blame social media, video games, and the isolation of kids that used to go play outside every day and have normal well-adjusted childhoods.


I do think this plays a lot into it. Phones, social media, the Internet etc has honestly ruined a generation and I have no hope it's going to get any better.

I also think people dismiss the psychological impact the styling of the "AR-style" weapons have. There's a reason that's what's used in every single one of these mass school shootings and it has nothing to do with the functionality of it vs other guns. The aggressive styling fuels something in people's brains that a typical hunting rifle simply does not. Wanting to go play real life call of duty etc
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
5336 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:50 am to
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This country has more of a mental illness and shitty parent problem than a gun problem.



Nah, i actually have someone in my family who gave their daughter for Christmas, when she was like 4 yrs old- a pink shotgun as a Christmas present .. i guess it was a BB gun or whatever, but giving “pretty” little guns to young kids like that is an indicator of either mental illness, or of a sick society/gun culture- or both .
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179007 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:52 am to
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but giving “pretty” little guns to young kids like that is an indicator of either mental illness,


shut the frick up with this fricking soy mentality. there is nothing inherently bad or evil about guns or growing up with them or around them.
Posted by Park duck
Sip
Member since Oct 2018
627 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:54 am to
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Dad is not too bright.
Dad is a pos enabler. "It's not my son's fault he gets bullied at every school we go to." Here it all the time in the school setting. Sorry Sir, little Johnny is a turd and its your fault. Lock diddy up and throw away the key. Ol sparky for the kid.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 7:58 am
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10262 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:58 am to
This might have already been discussed, but how is it legal to charge a 14 year old as an adult. I'll go on record as saying he should be charged as such. I just don't know the law on this. If anyone knows, please inform me.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77267 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:04 am to
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Exactly. If your 16-17 year old carjacks someone, charge the parent. They should’ve known where their child was and what they were doing.
100%

They are not adults. Adult control is required.

If your underage child is shooting stealing, committing criminal acts, the parents should be held to task.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12753 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:07 am to
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gave their daughter for Christmas, when she was like 4 yrs old- a pink shotgun as a Christmas present
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i guess it was a BB gun or whatever

You don’t know the difference?
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