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re: Georgia shooter was given an AR - 15 for Christmas from his father!

Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:13 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:13 am to
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Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:14 am to
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If your underage child is shooting stealing, committing criminal acts, the parents should be held to task.


If this were the case, a large majority of parents would be at risk of criminal charges, whether people here want to admit it or not.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:15 am to
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If this were the case, a large majority of parents would be at risk of criminal charges, whether people here want to admit it or not.
Then they should keep their children from being thieves, robbers, murderers, drug dealers, etc.

Be better parents.

There is zero reason minor children should be out acting that way, unless you blatantly suck as a parent.

The minute they hit adulthood, the parents are no longer liable.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 8:18 am
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:21 am to
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Posted by tigers win2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:22 am to
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I’m not a gun control freak but I’ll admit when something is fricked up and no father has any business giving his child a fricking AR-15. He deserves death just as much as his son does.


What about a typical hunting rifle like a 3006?

The kid was a stupid frick and needs execution.


The kid needs to be executed in a manner that would allow his organs saved to donate to others. He has a debt to pay to society and at a minimum his organs might save 3-4 people on transplant lists.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:25 am to
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Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26702 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:28 am to
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The kid needs to be executed in a manner that would allow his organs saved to donate to others.

Unfortunately in the State of Georgia, a defendant under the age of 18 cannot be sentenced to death, even if tried as an adult. This kid will get life without possibility of parole
Posted by TigerFan112
Member since Feb 2017
960 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:32 am to
Both parents are shite and the kid never had a chance. And the father sitting there in court rocking back and forth like a child. Whether it was real or for sympathy, I wanted to reach through the tv and choke the pos. He should spend the rest of his life in prison, as should the kid. The sad thing is he is the reason his kid will spend his life in prison.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22971 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Then they should keep their children from being thieves, robbers, murderers, drug dealers, etc.

Be better parents.

There is zero reason minor children should be out acting that way, unless you blatantly suck as a parent.


I think his point is that "criminal acts" is pretty damn broad and would include stupid shite that most teenagers do like underage drinking.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10065 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:40 am to
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she actually seems to be the biggest cause of this kid’s mental health issues.


Most women are the cause for mental health issues.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77267 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:42 am to
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I think his point is that "criminal acts" is pretty damn broad and would include stupid shite that most teenagers do like underage drinking.
Then limit it to violent acts, theft, drug dealing.

That is more than enough.
Posted by Psych23
Member since Aug 2024
731 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:46 am to
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Dad's not on ANY kind of list when purchasing a new assault weapon, considering the FBI knows his son has made threats?


Why wouldn't th3 father be legally allowed to own or purchase a gun?
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1139 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:47 am to
quote:


I think his point is that "criminal acts" is pretty damn broad and would include stupid shite that most teenagers do like underage drinking.


Correct.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26702 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:49 am to
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think his point is that "criminal acts" is pretty damn broad and would include stupid shite that most teenagers do like underage drinking.

But if you give your underage kid alcohol and he goes and drives a car and kills someone, the parent is charged too

This one isn’t a case where the kid snuck into the gun cabinet and shot a kid. This dad bought his son an AR-15 after police investigated him for threatening to shoot up a school….

It’s why, as fricked up as parents the Michigan couple were, should not have been charged. Not sure how you can word a law that would exclude kids stealing stuff vs supplying stuff, but also make it legal to give them a gun for hunting
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75163 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:00 am to
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It’s why, as fricked up as parents the Michigan couple were, should not have been charged. Not sure how you can word a law that would exclude kids stealing stuff vs supplying stuff, but also make it legal to give them a gun for hunting

Hell, even the Michigan mom told the kid "Just don't get caught" when he took a gun to school prior to the shooting. They weren't exactly the most attentive or responsible parents, and they could have (and probably should have) done a whole lot more to prevent that shooting.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 9:01 am
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7994 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:29 am to
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Why wouldn't th3 father be legally allowed to own or purchase a gun?


Not saying he's not allowed, just saying maybe there should be some kind of extra box to check on the form that says "Did the customer get visited by the FBI recently?"
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14789 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:30 am to
It'll be prison for this dumb arse.

On top of supplying his maniac son with the AR AFTER HE THREATENED TO SHOOT UP A SCHOOL AND WAS INVESTIGATED BY THE FBI, if the family is correct about him being an addict, he committed a federal crime by lying on a Form 4473.

Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40355 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:31 am to
quote:

14-year-old
quote:

Colin Gray, 54,


having a teenager at 54 sounds terrible

Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9421 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:26 am to
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f this were the case, a large majority of parents would be at risk of criminal charges, whether people here want to admit it or not.


Odd that all the posts are about gang violence when I'd be surprised if that was anyone's first hand examples from when they were teens. The only serious felony arrests / charges I recall from my own high school were:

Drunk driving 16yo killed a guy on a motorcycle.

17 yo date/party rape.

Both were kids of wealthy prominent "town leader type" businessmen.

I'm not sure that extending the legal exposure of parents significantly beyond something as blatant as personally making an assault rifle available to a 14yo with documented issues is going to have the exact results they are daydreaming about.

This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4339 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 10:41 am to
Why do we know more about this shooter in two days than we do about the Trump PA shooter?
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