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re: Ft. Lauderdale Airport: 5 dead, one shooter in custody....UPDATES inside

Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4555 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

what if something happens in the parking garage or the street outside the airport? Where does security start?


This is the million dollar question. You can continue to expand the "secure zone" indefinitely, really.

First it was the cockpit, then the plan, then the terminal, then the building, etc. etc.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24442 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

I don't think people realize how unsecure most aiports actually are



Eh, that guy was a pro though. He knew how to find the holes. Most people that do this get very nervous. If you've ever been to Europe or abroad the amount of security and security with automatic weapons is multiple times what the USA is. Part of that is to make people nervous and drive them away before they do anything.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16214 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:52 pm to
Once you get outside of the secured areas an airport really is no different than a shopping mall or any other area.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46666 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:53 pm to
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I doubt it. That doesn't make any sense, what if something happens in the parking garage or the street outside the airport? Where does security start? No way they are going to make everyone picking up friends and family go through security.


Obvious answer is to ban all guns. For the children.
Posted by tigercubs
RVA
Member since Jan 2010
2454 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

if anything, they will just secure the entire airport from now on


Outside of the secured areas (gates, etc), an airport isn't really different than a busy public building. It would be like putting security checkpoints at a mall or busy office building.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:54 pm to
MSNBC reporting the gun as an "Semi-Automatic Assault Pistol" was used.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88411 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:55 pm to
So we're going to move to every "soft area" needing metal detectors and security including OUTSIDE of the "venue"?

Ugh.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:55 pm to
Media is useless and almost counter-productive. Guy from CNN or somewhere just said it's "chaos" there. In the background, not a soul can be seen running or acting scared or anything. Just a guy directing traffic. These media people are idiots.
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8747 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:55 pm to
If that is the shooters Facebook that has been linked in this thread then he has a pretty good looking sister. Other than her little snaggle tooth she has a great body. I am no looking at her facebook....
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27871 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:56 pm to
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"Semi-Automatic Assault Pistol" was used.




I thought "long gun" was said?

If not I bet you can chalk up another for Team Glock.
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:57 pm to
ABC reporting he flew on Air Canada from Anchorage to Minneapolis and then Ft Lauderdale with the checked gun.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14332 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:58 pm to
Horrible. The state of Alabama doesn't do much right, but allowing concealed carry in unsecured areas within its airports is one of them.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86678 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 2:59 pm to
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e flew on Air Canada from Anchorage to Minneapolis and then Ft Lauderdale with the checked gun.


I'll be interested in the Ft Lauderdale connection

why there?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 3:00 pm to
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Media is useless and almost counter-productive. Guy from CNN or somewhere just said it's "chaos" there. In the background, not a soul can be seen running or acting scared or anything. Just a guy directing traffic. These media people are idiots.


I'm pretty sure if you were there you'd describe the situation - even the current situation - is chaotic. Standing on the fricking tarmac is not a calm situation.


As I typed this there are people running around on the tarmac as well.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Obvious answer is to ban all guns. For the children.


Did you know that gun powder is 75x worse for the atmosphere than any greenhouse gas known to man?

Ban the guns. For the climate. For the animals. For humanity.



Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 3:01 pm to
Drudge: GUN CHECKED IN BAG
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 3:01 pm to
Maybe you are both right.

The term white Hispanic has been around forever as a box to check on a form.

The term white Hispanic was not used by the media to describe people until Zimmerman shot Trayvon.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27871 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 3:02 pm to
Yep. "reported" pic of the gun on ground with evidence marker. Team Glock! Damn!!

Not the crazy long magazine though. Just the extension magazine for the pinky.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Horrible. The state of Alabama doesn't do much right, but allowing concealed carry in unsecured areas within its airports is one of them.




That is fine, but what would it have changed in this case?

Unless you're carrying off the street, you would need to get your gun out of your bag, load it, and conceal carry it before you even left the airport. Neither are practical ways to deter this shooter.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15168 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 3:03 pm to
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Eh, that guy was a pro though. He knew how to find the holes.


Meh, this is easy to pull off. No pro necessary.

At any rate, he should be burned at the stake.
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