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Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

Lost a friend 10 years ago the same way. Just got upset about it again night before last. She had a 4 year old daughter....I will never understand it.


Aren't you a nurse? I'd think that you'd know better than most how a despondent person arrives at that decision. I'm sorry for the loss of your friend and the wreckage they left behind. I know it's difficult to deal with and accept. As far as understanding suicide goes, I can only offer this:

For a suicidal person, I think sometimes it's not a question of "Why?", but "Why not?".
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

people can ridicule


No. This fear is what could kill you. Tell someone when you get this low. These feelings combined with alcohol or other inhibition-lowering meds can lead to you checking out and victimizing your loved ones. PJ was actually brave for his admission and reaching out.

No one should give him any shite about it.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37514 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:03 pm to
quote:


Had a young man who was my gunner in the Gun Truck. Never saw major combat, very minimal. He always thought suicide was for the weak. Kid ended up killing himself after over a year at home.

You sometimes just cant see that shite coming.

I was pulling duty in the barracks one night when a kid got up from a table where he'd been drinking and laughing with his friends all night, said goodnight to everyone, and immediately hung himself in the stairwell outside. Literally laughing and having a good time (at least externally) one minute and gone a few minutes later.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
16644 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:03 pm to
Prayers going your way op
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24748 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

A big time Miami attorney in his late 50s just committed suicide.

Sending positive thoughts your way. Depression doesn't discriminate against any races or economic status. Terrible to hear


Hope it's not Marlins Man. He is my hero
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
7367 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:11 pm to
I had a friend do this about a year and a half ago.

Still not over it. I can never see his face again, talk to him, or anything. Sucks man.

Sorry to hear about your friend.
Posted by The Blonde Tiger
Member since Jun 2017
1047 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

For a suicidal person, I think sometimes it's not a question of "Why?", but "Why not?".



I also think that some are in such a state where they feel family and friends are just better off without them.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45343 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:13 pm to
Sorry for your loss. I hope you are able to get past the shock and move to a point where you can celebrate his life. It seems like y'all had some good times.

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68768 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:24 pm to
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Hope it's not Marlins Man. He is my hero


Not Marlins man. But the dude that committed suicide hit a $100,000,000 jury verdict on a horrible case about 15 years ago IIRC and could have lived a Marlins man life. It has to be terrible for the families
Posted by Muriel
third ward
Member since Dec 2016
444 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:29 pm to
People who haven't had someone close to them kill themselves are the ones who say it's a selfish act. It's a childish mindset to think that way, but it's common in our society.

To me, suicide is the absolute most tragic form of death. The fact that the human brain is capable of rationalizing it is scary. We have no control over our thoughts. It's not selfish in the very least.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 10:39 pm
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
56120 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:30 pm to
I'm so sorry. Terrible thing.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72764 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:35 pm to
Sorry sport, thirteen years ago in August for someone very close to me.

Dealing with it in my personal life has been the worst turd sandwich I could imagine.

If anyone here feels depressed, please seek help.

Tell the most compassionate and trustworthy person in your life that you are having trouble keeping your head above water.

Make them help you help yourself.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

quote: For a suicidal person, I think sometimes it's not a question of "Why?", but "Why not?".

I also think that some are in such a state where they feel family and friends are just better off without them.


That's exactly my point. A person can get to a point where they actually believe everyone would be better off without them. Others feel their existence is essentially meaningless, even if they have friends and family who actually care about them.

I don't think it's primarily driven by "selfishness".
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
54838 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

I can only ask my mind to accept that mental health issues and depression are too often masked and hidden. Or maybe some see it and others do not. I only wish I would have had any small indication.....I would have reached out.



I lost one of my best friends to suicide in 1988. After he did it and looking back on it, some of the things he told me the last time I saw him were as if he was saying goodbye. At the time it didn't register. Sorry for your loss.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 10:42 pm
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3242 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:42 pm to
From a pragmatic stand point I get it. But emotionally I just can't understand how she felt that desperate. Out of all the weirdos I grew up with she seemed to always be the happiest.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
60322 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:45 pm to
Hate to hear this dude.

Tragically, there are 2 suicides for every 1 murder.

It's a war out there. In people's heads. And we ain't winning. I wish the stats were better but people hit the wall of what they are able to deal with.

The decision is made to solve the problem and checkout. Life is good for a short time, post decision. They know they can ease the burden on themselves and their loved ones and afterall, they just want what's best / easiest for family and friends. Such a tragic misjudgement.

RIP.
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4821 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:47 pm to
Prayers for family and friends
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16326 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

I used to always dismiss this as simply a selfish decision.... but I know my friend didn't have a selfish bone in his body.




Everything I've heard from suicidal, or formerly suicidal, people is that they have the overwhelming sense that everyone around them would be happier/better off with them gone. Those that look back afterward realize how irrational it was.

It's not necessarily a selfish act by someone in their right mind.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6531 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:54 pm to
I've heard some say a person taking this route may appear happy the last day or so, as if they are relieved everything will be over.

Depression is a terrible thing. Short of suicide, it still wrecks havoc and causes people to make detrimental choices up and down the scale.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22748 posts
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:57 pm to
Went through this two years ago. They had some family problems, but no one expected them to do what they did - not even close. Left a young child behind. Don't blame yourself.
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