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re: France is already bickering about how they will rebuild Notre Dame Cathedral

Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:19 pm to
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frick that noise.


Why?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:19 pm to
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Maybe the contractor on BR's downtown library are available?

Well shite, the cathedral is already structurally unsound. What do they need those contractors for?
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:23 pm to
Because I say so.














and b/c I think most modern architecture is ugly as frick.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:26 pm to
There’s this kind of awful, they’re always socialist, Frenchman who loves ruining traditional culture.

They love shitty art, like Jeff Koons.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:30 pm to
Why You Hate Contemporary Architecture

LINK

quote:

British author Douglas Adams had this to say about airports: “Airports are ugly. Some are very ugly. Some attain a degree of ugliness that can only be the result of special effort.” Sadly, this truth is not applicable merely to airports: it can also be said of most contemporary architecture.

Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:33 pm to
JFK TWA terminal is beautiful.

As is New Orleans Lakefront.

Dude is a jackass for that comment.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:51 pm to
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British author Douglas Adams


You can find some jackass to quote that dislikes or likes whatever the building or style you want.

This is a quote about the Notre Dame renovation of the 1800s

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Charles Hiatt writes, in his 1902 account of the cathedral, that the ambulatory and the chapels adjoining it are over-decorated: "The truth is that the colour confuses our appreciation of the fine lines of the architecture, and it is frequently restless and irritating where it should be most reposeful"



There was criticism of most of the renovation because it didn't adhere to the gothic style. The fact is, most of the statues, stained glass and the spire we are discussing today are more in the "Romantic" architectural style which was the style of the time when the renovation of the 1800s took place. So there is historical precedent for using the architectural style of the time to design the new spire.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:14 pm to
If it is still a church Rome owns it.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:16 pm to
That crap won't stand. I'm not worried.
Posted by Chuker
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:20 pm to
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They are probably realizing that there is no one in the world that has the craftsmanship to rebuild it like it was.





Thats kinda dumb. There are probably more people than ever with the abilities to do that work. The worlds population is many times more now than it was then giving us more talented people. Add into that that now we have modern devices, it shouldn't be a problem of recreating. The question is, is there enough money to hire these skilled people for many many years?

Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:29 pm to
You rebuild it the way it was designed to be built. That’s the only correct answer.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:35 pm to
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You rebuild it the way it was designed to be built.


Which specific design would that be?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:39 pm to
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Which specific design would that be?


In the design that was destroyed. We have people and technology that can recreate the original design, or at least very closely to it. It’s not undoable today.
Posted by danfraz
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:41 pm to
They should put a Star of David at the top with a Turban hanging off to the side.


All bases covered
Posted by real turf fan
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:49 pm to
Lest we not forget the Pompidou center
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:48 pm to
Read the article, promise.

It does a good job of explaining why modern architecture is so often sad, if not purposefully dehumanizing.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:55 pm to
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So there is historical precedent for using the architectural style of the time to design the new spire.


You could think that.

But the style of our time is cold, brutal, and purposefully antagonistic. It’s a clean break with everything that came before, and purposefully so.

So that actually doesn’t make any sense.

It is good that they broke with gothic design in that renovation. Gothic cathedrals were often intended to terrify the lay people. Notre Dame is memorable because its not that.

it’s designed to be beautiful and uplifting, which is what good architecture is about.

Even if we’ve managed to forget that.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 12:08 am to
France gave us the Statue of Liberty, maybe we should give them a new spire? Make it the biggest and best spire in all of Europe, gold plated, with the inscription “Rendre la France grande à nouveau.”
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:00 am to
A reasonable compromise would be to replicate the original as closely as possible and require at least two priests to have “COEXIST” bumper stickers on their Macs.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 4/18/19 at 5:05 am to
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They had also recently completed 3D laser imaging the entire structure. The building was literally crumbling apart. Many of the buttresses had been "repaired" with wood and painted to match the masonry that had fried away. If the French Government was honest, they would tell you that this fire was a blessing in disguise. There was no way they could properly repair it intact, only damage control.

eta: Link
This fire allows the French government to do appropriate renovations without resistance from the French people, and it will end up costing less, especially when you consider the donations that are pouring in. All art/relics are saved, and arson has been ruled out by French officials.

Well, I think I’ve got my conspiracy theory.
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