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re: Former housing projects in Nola…
Posted on 7/1/23 at 11:17 pm to notiger1997
Posted on 7/1/23 at 11:17 pm to notiger1997
In high school, I did almost 200 community service hours in the projects in New Orleans...mostly St Thomas. I saw unspeakably horrible things and conditions (poverty i saw later in Brazil and China was worse looking back).
I wasn't that afraid though...we were assured that we would be fine if we were in our uniforms. We absolutely were.
Fun story...we were on the other side of the projects doing community service while Juvenile was filming Ha (magnolia projects). We saw the cameras, but didn't even know what was getting filmed until we saw a music video late and recognized him.
It was eye-opening and helped shaped my beliefs as an adult. No amount of government or charitable help will ever help someone who only wants a hand out.
I will say the 1990s Nola might have been the murder capital, etc; but it felt a lot safer than current nola. The French Quarter and downtown were clean and safe. Ironically, the Warehouse District was full of needles and bums. I worked in a warehouse where WWII Museum is now and watched my back while parking.
Thank you for my walk down memory lane, notiger.
I wasn't that afraid though...we were assured that we would be fine if we were in our uniforms. We absolutely were.
Fun story...we were on the other side of the projects doing community service while Juvenile was filming Ha (magnolia projects). We saw the cameras, but didn't even know what was getting filmed until we saw a music video late and recognized him.
It was eye-opening and helped shaped my beliefs as an adult. No amount of government or charitable help will ever help someone who only wants a hand out.
I will say the 1990s Nola might have been the murder capital, etc; but it felt a lot safer than current nola. The French Quarter and downtown were clean and safe. Ironically, the Warehouse District was full of needles and bums. I worked in a warehouse where WWII Museum is now and watched my back while parking.
Thank you for my walk down memory lane, notiger.
This post was edited on 7/1/23 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 7/1/23 at 11:57 pm to James11111
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except my post was true.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 12:10 am to notiger1997
Up on housing project hill its either fortune or fame
You must choose one or the other though neither are what they claim.
You must choose one or the other though neither are what they claim.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 1:22 am to notiger1997
There were massive protests against them being torn down.
Idiots. What replaced them was better.
Idiots. What replaced them was better.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 1:41 am to SuperSaint
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I've stayed the night in all of those projects back before the storm And I'm white
About as real as bud light sales going up right?
Posted on 7/2/23 at 3:41 am to notiger1997
some of them such as all the townhouses in the former magnolia and st. thomas projects look fine from the outside, but when i worked with EMS 5-7 years ago i went in those places numerous times. the people living there dont respect them and insides are trashed. nearly every one would have a 65+ inch tv sitting on a crappy old stand or on the ground above the tv would be a picture of obama and a picture of MLK. not exaggerating when i say that was 90% of the places
Posted on 7/2/23 at 4:19 am to SuperSaint
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And I'm white
sure you are
Posted on 7/2/23 at 5:59 am to notiger1997
Friend,
Thank you for sharing this wonderful success story. When the Church fails, government must step in to help. And as more and more churches close their doors and Americans turn to individualism, hedonism, and securityism as their gods above the God who teaches us to love the widow, orphan, and prisoner and to take in the alien as one of our own, who tells us that we are to give the one who has not, who tells us our treasure is not in our homes but in heaven, expect that government’s arm will grow stronger is this department out of necessity.
Our youth group had a program with St Monica’s, church near the Calliope Projects, which often went by the less graceful name of BW Cooper, where we met with their youth group on Sunday afternoons. One month we would meet at our church and the next at their church. Occasionally, we would have service projects in the courtyards and buildings of the beautiful Georgian brick Calliope residence.
Perhaps I was too young to feel afraid, but I never felt danger or apprehension about the days we spent at Calliope. One time when we were helping to clean and renovate one lady’s residence, someone knocked on the door to tell us not to come out for about thirty minutes. We heard loud noises which I assumed was another family throwing a surprise birthday party.
The people we met there were most hospitable and I never saw any activities untoward or suspicious except one afternoon when a block party was being hosted. There was a lot of smoke and people holding large bottles of what appeared to be either apple juice or beer. Sadly, in retrospect, it appeared to be the latter. Not until I visited a tailgate at LSU did I witness that amount of public alcohol drinking.
Besides ourselves there were few white people in the projects we visited. I never did see SuperSaint there, but perhaps he only visited after the sun went down for slumber parties.
One day Mother and I were going to the Piccadilly across from Ochsner, which now is a tasteless large gas station. We had been at an auction downtown, so she decided to take Earhart, the most poorly designed expressway in America.
As we left downtown, her back left tire lost pressure and her Mercedes came to a stop in front of the Calliope Projects. Mother seemed scared, and I tried to assuage her fear by telling her this was where we had done some gardening two months ago.
We managed to find a parking spot beneath one of those beautiful oaks. I was maybe 11 years old at the time and did not know how to change a tire, nor did I have suitable gloves that would have kept my hands free from grease and dirt.
As a middle aged man approached the car, Mother gripped my hand and said, “Do not open your door.
He tapped on the window, so I rolled it down. “Let me help y’all out. You got a spare?”
The nice gentleman quickly changed the tire, but unfortunately the flat had no air pressure either. He then told us to stay put so he could run back to his apartment and call a cab.
Fifteen minutes later we were in a United Cab back home. We did not get to feast on roast beef and carrot soufflé that day. And sadly we never saw that car again either.
When the developers took over after a Katrina, I was quite sad to see the old Bricks torn down. They were home to handsome architecture and quality build, but I also understood that the crime that festered there was also not something that could go on either.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Thank you for sharing this wonderful success story. When the Church fails, government must step in to help. And as more and more churches close their doors and Americans turn to individualism, hedonism, and securityism as their gods above the God who teaches us to love the widow, orphan, and prisoner and to take in the alien as one of our own, who tells us that we are to give the one who has not, who tells us our treasure is not in our homes but in heaven, expect that government’s arm will grow stronger is this department out of necessity.
Our youth group had a program with St Monica’s, church near the Calliope Projects, which often went by the less graceful name of BW Cooper, where we met with their youth group on Sunday afternoons. One month we would meet at our church and the next at their church. Occasionally, we would have service projects in the courtyards and buildings of the beautiful Georgian brick Calliope residence.
Perhaps I was too young to feel afraid, but I never felt danger or apprehension about the days we spent at Calliope. One time when we were helping to clean and renovate one lady’s residence, someone knocked on the door to tell us not to come out for about thirty minutes. We heard loud noises which I assumed was another family throwing a surprise birthday party.
The people we met there were most hospitable and I never saw any activities untoward or suspicious except one afternoon when a block party was being hosted. There was a lot of smoke and people holding large bottles of what appeared to be either apple juice or beer. Sadly, in retrospect, it appeared to be the latter. Not until I visited a tailgate at LSU did I witness that amount of public alcohol drinking.
Besides ourselves there were few white people in the projects we visited. I never did see SuperSaint there, but perhaps he only visited after the sun went down for slumber parties.
One day Mother and I were going to the Piccadilly across from Ochsner, which now is a tasteless large gas station. We had been at an auction downtown, so she decided to take Earhart, the most poorly designed expressway in America.
As we left downtown, her back left tire lost pressure and her Mercedes came to a stop in front of the Calliope Projects. Mother seemed scared, and I tried to assuage her fear by telling her this was where we had done some gardening two months ago.
We managed to find a parking spot beneath one of those beautiful oaks. I was maybe 11 years old at the time and did not know how to change a tire, nor did I have suitable gloves that would have kept my hands free from grease and dirt.
As a middle aged man approached the car, Mother gripped my hand and said, “Do not open your door.
He tapped on the window, so I rolled it down. “Let me help y’all out. You got a spare?”
The nice gentleman quickly changed the tire, but unfortunately the flat had no air pressure either. He then told us to stay put so he could run back to his apartment and call a cab.
Fifteen minutes later we were in a United Cab back home. We did not get to feast on roast beef and carrot soufflé that day. And sadly we never saw that car again either.
When the developers took over after a Katrina, I was quite sad to see the old Bricks torn down. They were home to handsome architecture and quality build, but I also understood that the crime that festered there was also not something that could go on either.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 7/2/23 at 6:04 am
Posted on 7/2/23 at 6:12 am to notiger1997
I was the construction superintendent in charge of rebuilding the Desire housing project when Katrina wiped it out. They were going to be very nice compared to what was there before. The company I worked for transferred me to another job/city after Katrina and I never went back to that area of New Orleans. I believe another company ended up rebuilding it again.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:39 am to Epaminondas
I believe him, actually.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:41 am to notiger1997
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’ve ridden through several of these areas in the last year or so and it’s amazing that they all still look really nice. What was done back then in operational structure and follow on over site that has let this happen?
All the real lowlifes are in the section 8 apartments in Nola East.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:18 am to adam2000
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lived in nola for about half a year in 2010-2011 lived on tchoupitoulas. I remember getting stop by the police riding my bike thru the projects by the food stamp office they swarm me in seconds.
The only way NOPD swarms anyone "in seconds" is if you or your twin brother shot a cop or you bought your drugs in the middle of a stakeout.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 9:44 am to brewhan davey
Every NOLA project was named after its main thoroughfare. I just realized this
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:05 am to notiger1997
They were built for temporary housing not a lifestyle. Necessity over comfort
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:09 am to GreenRockTiger
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St. Thomas was the worst
Naw
Calliope or magnolia followed by the Melph
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:15 am to notiger1997
One reason is these "neighborhoods" also have their own police department aside from NOPD. The HANO police are able to enforce the law and neighborhood violations that can get people booted from the home.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:15 am to Tiger Attorney
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mostly St Thomas. I saw unspeakably horrible things and conditions (poverty i saw later in Brazil and China was worse looking back).
I worked at NOGH on Jackson St. right in front of St. Thomas back in the early to mid-90’s. Shootings were common.
One day me and a couple coworkers were standing near our cars getting ready to leave when shots rang out. Some kid comes running by, followed by another with a gun in his hand.
The project could only be described as a ghetto. It looked more like a prison than a place to live.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:17 am to Tiger Attorney
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No amount of government or charitable help will ever help someone who only wants a hand out.
Is this considered systematic poverty? People are put in the projects with poor conditions, poor schools, horrible environments and given handouts with little to no hope to change their situation. Not only does it become generational but people start to accept their situation as normal. Normal as in just getting handouts and staying on the system.
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:20 am to Lester Earl
quote:in the 80s & 90s - St Thomas was the worst
Calliope or magnolia followed by the Melph
Melph had nothing but pushers, no murders
Posted on 7/2/23 at 10:29 am to sdc74
That’s all some people know; but do you really think people want to live like that? Lol
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