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re: Ford to move ALL of its small car production from US to Mexico

Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:00 am to
Posted by CaptN
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2013
387 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:00 am to
Yeah, gotta have that union electrician to change that light bulb. Tell a teacher she has to take a proficiency exam? Fire a bad cop.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
151507 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:00 am to
From what I understand they aren't shutting down the plant in the US anyway. Just moving the small car production to a plant in Mexico and moving larger vehicles to this plant that was producing the small vehicles.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40227 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:03 am to
You guys can thank the Mexican drug war for their cheap labor.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:21 am to
Supposedly Ranger and Bronco. Bronco won't ever be built
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141061 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:29 am to
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The OT conservatives hate free trade


I think you meant to say liberals.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26238 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:31 am to
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The answer, in my opinion, is to tax imported goods at a high rate, while lowering taxes on american made goods.


Fricking idiot. You would make Americans pay more for shite across the board. Sounds smart
This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 10:35 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:35 am to
quote:

. You have no clue who owns Toyota, Ford, GM, etc


Likely most people who have a 401k owns a little of those.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108894 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:02 am to
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Yeah, gotta have that union electrician to change that light bulb. Tell a teacher she has to take a proficiency exam? Fire a bad cop.


Meh. Not all unions are created equal (and certainly not even by state or profession). I wouldn't work in education without one for no other reason than I deal with far too many sue happy parents on a regular basis that will want your job if you hurt their baby's feelings or didn't coddle them enough. Legislators enacting ridiculous education "reforms" without practical applications to schools (i.e. see the increase in Special Education paperwork). And some districts are trying everything they can to put keep money in their pockets and cut teacher/staff contracts to offset costs. Nah, I think I'll keep my union.

As far as the OP and UAW goes, they're some of the worst.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:04 am to
Maybe Americans should start crossing the border illegally to find work.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15245 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:19 am to
I guess ford is giving up on the aluminum bodies?

Going to try sheetrock next?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61601 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:02 pm to
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Can someone explain to me why car companies such as Toyota, Hyundai, and Mercedes Benz can build cars in the US and be profitable, while Ford cannot?


Ford isn't moving all production out of the US. Only the small cars that do not sell well.

The factories that are losing the cars will be changed to produce more trucks and SUVs b/c those are what currently sell well.

This story really isn't as big a deal as Ford has let it become.

The cars that foreign companies build here are also the ones that happen to sell fairly well. Cars w/shitty margins are going to get shuffled off to places like Mexico where it's a ton cheaper to make them.

In many ways it's a hell of a lot better for everyone in the US for jobs that are going to get moved to at least go to Mexico over a country like China. More jobs down there equals a more stable economy which equals less reason for people to turn to crime or illegally immigrate here.
This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted by cajuncarguy
On the road...Again!
Member since Jun 2013
3135 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:08 pm to
The buyers will pay the taxes not the automaker!
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:10 pm to
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they can pay Mexicans the same amount a janitor gets here.


But the cars wont sell for any cheaper.
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
12043 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 12:21 pm to
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TigerFanInSouthland


I like how you blame Obama care for this when it started over 30 years ago. By 1989, the GM workforce in Flint had already been gutted.

You are a myopic dolt.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:06 pm to
Vehicle with the highest percentage of American parts and assembled in America......drumroll please......the Honda Ridgeline
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
20027 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:08 pm to
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And who do you think will ultimately end up paying that tax? I'll help you out, the consumer. I pay enough tax already.



Only if you choose to buy a ford. You aren't obligated to pay that tax.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:09 pm to
I bet 1 Messican can built a Ford by himself in 100 degree heat in 30 minutes.

Those folks are machines.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Ford isn't moving all production out of the US. Only the small cars that do not sell well.

The factories that are losing the cars will be changed to produce more trucks and SUVs b/c those are what currently sell well.

This story really isn't as big a deal as Ford has let it become.

The cars that foreign companies build here are also the ones that happen to sell fairly well. Cars w/shitty margins are going to get shuffled off to places like Mexico where it's a ton cheaper to make them.

In many ways it's a hell of a lot better for everyone in the US for jobs that are going to get moved to at least go to Mexico over a country like China. More jobs down there equals a more stable economy which equals less reason for people to turn to crime or illegally immigrate here.



Very fricking good post.

I'll give you 1 Aggie, but just 1.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:11 pm to
Should have seen this coming when Ford came out with the Fiesta.

What other names we thinking?

Chuntaro? Puente? Pesadilla?

Gracias, Ford..yo gusta trabajo, pero yo quiero mas dinero. Mucho trabajo y poco dinero es no bueno. El queso este viejo y putrido.
This post was edited on 9/15/16 at 1:12 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:12 pm to
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What do you think?

Doesn't bother me.
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