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re: Ford CEO came very close to saying the right thing about heavy EV batteries
Posted on 5/23/23 at 6:36 am to elprez00
Posted on 5/23/23 at 6:36 am to elprez00
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It will be interesting to see the fallout when the first generation of these EVs reach end of life, both in resale market and disposal.
Albemarle is going all-in on developing “clean and efficient” lithium recycling. They are investing millions in research and just built a new research facility in Charlotte. They currently produce 38% of the Li on the world market today
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:12 am to rickgrimes
Well...no shite
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:16 am to rickgrimes
A collision involving those heavy batteries is going to be causing horrific carnage and destruction. A lot more people will have to die (sacrificed) in the name of mother earth.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:17 am to 62Tigerfan
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A collision involving those heavy batteries is going to be causing horrific carnage and destruction. A lot more people will have to die (sacrificed) in the name of mother earth.
I don't get why we aren't easing that direction with more hybrid options instead of pushing full on heavy battery EV's .
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:22 am to rickgrimes
Don worry, billjamin will be here to say why everyone is wrong.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:29 am to 62Tigerfan
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A lot more people will have to die (sacrificed) in the name of mother earth.
Perfectly acceptable for the Dims. Just look at Covid.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:30 am to rickgrimes
these lithium batteries are going to cause an environmental nightmare at some point. The demand for supplying batteries far outweighs the demand for recycling them.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:59 am to kywildcatfanone
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I don't get why we aren't easing that direction with more hybrid options instead of pushing full on heavy battery EV's
Exactly what I came in to say. I will never own an EV as my only car but would maybe consider a hybrid.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:11 am to Rize
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Those same people been working like that and can never afford anything you buy. The good news is they will be getting some really cool 2023 LSU Baseball championship shirts in the next few weeks.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:15 am to rickgrimes
There are also coats not being considered when we look at additional roadway damage and vehicular damage during accidents.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:18 am to kywildcatfanone
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I don't get why we aren't easing that direction with more hybrid options instead of pushing full on heavy battery EV's .
Hybrid really is the best of both worlds but the batteries are still really expensive. My wife looked at the new Accord hybrid but just went with a regular gas burner because we don't want the 10-12k battery replacement at 100k miles.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:21 am to fallguy_1978
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My wife looked at the new Accord hybrid but just went with a regular gas burner because we don't want the 10-12k battery replacement at 100k miles.
We have a CRV hybrid touring on order, should be here any day. Will be our first hybrid. Our normal pattern for cars for my wife is to trade every 5 years, so I shouldn't have to worry about the battery replacement. But yes, that is a big concern if you plan to keep them. It's a significant cost to consider when buying a non ICE only vehicle.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:23 am to kywildcatfanone
We drive ours into the dirt now. The only reason she got a new one is we gave the 2012 to the youngest kid.
I question whether I'd even spend that much on a car with 100k miles. It would probably just go to the junkyard.
I question whether I'd even spend that much on a car with 100k miles. It would probably just go to the junkyard.
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 8:27 am
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:25 am to rickgrimes
We don't have enough materials to make the batteries required to transition to EV's entirely.
The right move is to transition to fully hybrid, with much smaller batteries and far less fuel consumption.
The right move is to transition to fully hybrid, with much smaller batteries and far less fuel consumption.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:28 am to rickgrimes
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8,000-pound behemoth. The Ram 1500 REV includes an option for a 229kWh battery for a targeted range of 500 miles.
Tire companies finna eat. with the destroyed roads because of the weight and the reinforced tires that will be needed to carry all that weight.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:30 am to rickgrimes
They don’t pay tax to support the infrastructure that they drive on ie roads, bridges and tunnels
That needs to change
That needs to change
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:33 am to Emteein
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Tire companies finna eat. with the destroyed roads because of the weight and the reinforced tires that will be needed to carry all that weight.
We are consolidating too much battery into a relatively few number of vehicles. The materials would make a bigger impact if we made smaller batteries out of them and pushed hybrids instead of full EV's.
THAT is how you make a huge dent in energy consumption. Incremental, meaningful changes. But right now Ford and GM are all in on EV's and have not invested nearly enough on hybrids.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:38 am to member12
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We are consolidating too much battery into a relatively few number of vehicles. The materials would make a bigger impact if we made smaller batteries out of them and pushed hybrids instead of full EV's.
Common sense is uncommon in America today.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:48 am to chadr07
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Yea too bad Texas isn’t even good enough to have T shirts made for them. Such a shame
Texas at least won their conference
Posted on 5/23/23 at 8:49 am to rickgrimes
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Bigger batteries...THIS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE
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The Hummer EV’s 212kWh battery is heavier than a Honda Civic.
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Silverado EV has an 8000lb battery
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I have no idea what’s going on in this industry right now,” Ford CEO Jim Farley
Anyone purchasing an EV today is an absolute confirmation of how idiotic and brainwashed we are as a society.
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