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re: First results from Iceland's general population CV19 testing

Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:36 pm to
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:36 pm to
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I just find it ironic the majority of the board are willing to bend over backwards and participate in the tanking of the economy for a group they they normally wish would just get out of the way.

i wish we could see the math/projections from the UK, b/c their plan was to isolate the older people
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:37 pm to
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about half of those who tested positive have shown no symptoms, and the other half show symptoms have having a regular cold.



color me shocked, but let's put individuals out of business b/c government types say so.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:37 pm to
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If theyre only testing people showing signs of it, that doesn't really tell us.



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half of those who tested positive have shown no symptoms,
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:38 pm to
It’s hard to actually pull the trigger on the boomers. But you do have a good point.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:39 pm to
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If 1% of people in Iceland have it, what percentage of people in places like New York City, Seattle and SF have it.


Iceland isn't some bucolic isolated place, almost 60% of the population is in Reykayvik (sp?) and they get almost three million visitors a year, there are lots of opportunities for the virus to spread
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:41 pm to
None of that changes the fact that across the world, hospitals are being overrun. The death rate of confirmed cases in Italy is close to 8% mainly because of their elderly population, but also because they can treat the flood of patients they have.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:42 pm to
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i wish we could see the math/projections from the UK, b/c their plan was to isolate the older people



Older people can't be isolated. Too stubborn. Hell tell old people who are content staying put to do so and a good bit of them will tell you to frick off and then start moving around.

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:44 pm to
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i wish we could see the math/projections from the UK, b/c their plan was to isolate the older people



Buddy of mine got on the last flight out of the US to Heathrow to be with his girlfriend (a type 1 diabetic). He told me that the limey government directed all immunocompromised people to self-quarantine for 12 weeks. That's fricking nuts.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:44 pm to
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We will have herd immunity in short order once we are allowed to congregate again.

Agreed.

Here is more about asymptomatic cases:
An entire village in Italy was CV19 tested > LINK
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"The vast majority of people infected with Covid-19, between 50 and 75%, are completely asymptomatic but represent a formidable source of contagion". The Professor of Clinical Immunology of the University of Florence Sergio Romagnani writes this at the top of the Tuscany Region, in anticipation of a strong increase in cases also in the Region, on the basis of the study on the inhabitants of Vo 'Euganeo where the 3000 inhabitants of the country are been subjected to swab.
This is obviously a double-edged sword. The UK's original plan to isolate and quarantine the elderly, while allowing the rest of the population to become immune was probably the correct course of action.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:44 pm to
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plan was to isolate the older people


This should have been phase one.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:44 pm to
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Iceland isn't some bucolic isolated place,


Understood, but hell there are a bunch of cases in the Faroe Islands of all places. When you look at how this thing has swept the world it tells me (1) there is no stopping it, and (2) there are already way more people than we think with this thing. And the percentage of fatal and serious cases are way way lower than what is being put out there.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
53025 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:46 pm to
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The death rate of confirmed cases in Italy is close to 8% mainly because of their elderly population, but also because they can treat the flood of patients they have.


Population density is 4X that of ours.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:55 pm to
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This should have been phase one.


Completely agree, it has been known for quite some time
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:55 pm to
They are going to let Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson take care of it by crushing the virus.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:55 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 3:05 pm
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:57 pm to
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Population density is 4X that of ours.


Seoul South Korea is even more densely populated, but they clamped the country down. The stats don't lie.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42775 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 3:00 pm to
So maybe the you should isolate those only in densely populated areas like cities and not in the unincorporated or more sparsely populated areas.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
25246 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 3:01 pm to
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2) there are already way more people than we think with this thing. And the percentage of fatal and serious cases are way way lower than what is being put out there.

This right here, but that does not sell. We need fear and panic because orange man bad
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 3:04 pm to
Always hard to infect Iceland. It only has a seaport so you need to evolve the water gene
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