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re: FBI says fake covid vaccination card is a crime

Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:37 am to
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6793 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:37 am to



ABOLISH the FBI, CIA, and ATF.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
9026 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:38 am to
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No one is forcing you to get a vaccine.


See the growing threads on schools and businesses requiring said vaccine. But muhhh TB, polio, and other "well ESTABLISHED vaccine" requirements, which took decades if not more to develop properly and gain official approval.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:41 am to
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Of course it's a crime. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a fool. It's a felony.


So you’re cool with the medical officials classifying motorcycle crash deaths as covid deaths being charged as felons, right?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36331 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:45 am to
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Government seals


What seal? Pics?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:54 am to
I'm perfectly fine with felons being charged for felonies.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:54 am to
But a fake dossier isnt. Weird

Glad to see our Top Men are working on the really important stuff.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13815 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:58 am to
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If you get caught doing that, then you'd have to convince the FBI,


Which brings up my next question....how would one get caught. Say your card is challenged. It in this case would be hand written manufacture and dose number on an official vaccination card. I suppose if someone wanted to do a deep dive they could look into some data base and see if your name exists, or if the batch number and site match up....obviously if it's a fake 1. your name will not be in the database and/or 2 the batch number and site would not match up. BUT how could the FBI prove this was not a result of a clerical error on the part of the people who administered the shot. The error could have occurred when the record was entered into the system, the error could have occurred when writing the batch number, system/network issues could have also contributed to such a discrepancy. Point being, I don't think there is any way to 100% prove a person did not receive a vaccine other than forcing them to take an anti-body test I suppose which seems like a reach. In short...I don't see many agencies pursuing such an offense.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:59 am to
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FBI says fake covid vaccination card is a crime



Meanwhile, hackers have taken over a major US pipeline and the FBI would rather be a political organization than a law enforcement organization.
Posted by bushwacker
youngsville
Member since Feb 2010
4010 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:01 am to
How do they prove that the card was filled out fraudulently? what if the tech who gave the shot entered in something incorrectly and my info doesn't show up when the government violates my patient privacy rights and checks?
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14789 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:07 am to


So? The FBI is a proven fraud machine, itself.

Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:24 am to
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If you get one from me, I’ll throw in a counterfeit beanie baby for your daughter and a jar of moonshine for pops if you use the code TD4EVER.


you've got yourself a fricking deal!

If the FBI comes knocking, I'll just tell them I saw a noose and to immobilize to take out that threat and forget all about my forged immunization card.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 10:26 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:26 am to
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So? The FBI is a proven fraud machine, itself.



They used falsified and edited evidence to justify a FISA warrant. No consequence.
Posted by CovingtonTigre
In your head Werder
Member since Mar 2021
1482 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:33 am to
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Good luck enforcing it limp dicks.



Large scale it won’t be enforced but in the micro if you have the FBI investigating you I’m sure they will figure it out pretty easy.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8610 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:39 am to
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Show us your papers please........


My medical records are mine and mine alone according to HIPPA. I do not have to indulge any information and nobody has the right to check without my consent, so frick em if they ask.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115433 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:41 am to
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No one is forcing you to get a vaccine.


yet
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138923 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 10:42 am to
They'll probably have harsher sentencing for this than for voter fraud
Posted by EuphoricSSP
Member since Feb 2021
822 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 12:29 pm to
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Which brings up my next question....how would one get caught. Say your card is challenged. It in this case would be hand written manufacture and dose number on an official vaccination card. I suppose if someone wanted to do a deep dive they could look into some data base and see if your name exists, or if the batch number and site match up....obviously if it's a fake 1. your name will not be in the database and/or 2 the batch number and site would not match up. BUT how could the FBI prove this was not a result of a clerical error on the part of the people who administered the shot. The error could have occurred when the record was entered into the system, the error could have occurred when writing the batch number, system/network issues could have also contributed to such a discrepancy. Point being, I don't think there is any way to 100% prove a person did not receive a vaccine other than forcing them to take an anti-body test I suppose which seems like a reach. In short...I don't see many agencies pursuing such an offense.



Not a bad thing to do, cry out "but I got the vaccine, it was at ____"
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13815 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 1:12 pm to
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Not a bad thing to do, cry out "but I got the vaccine, it was at ____"




And like I said...how would they prove you didn't. It wouldn't be the first time a pharmacist made a clerical error
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28579 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 1:15 pm to
I posted that statute more than a month ago when the blank card was posted online and linked here. However, to my knowledge no one has been prosecuted for faking that particular CDC official document. That begs the question, "Is it still a crime if they tolerate open violation of the law?"
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1583 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 1:27 pm to
Simply don't use the gubmint seal, make a new one with whatever you want to say on it. Doubtful anyone would look close enough to notice.

As long as you don't use it for "official government purposes", it won't run afoul of "injuring public records" laws. But to satisfy a concert venue or restaurant, in my legal opinion, is not a problem.
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