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FBI says fake covid vaccination card is a crime

Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:03 pm
Posted by NOLATiger163
Insane State of NOLA
Member since Aug 2018
621 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:03 pm
Around here people have debated whether it is a crime and/or otherwise illegal to make yourself a fake covid vaccine card. For example, in the recent TigerDroppings thread "Got a Vaccination Card (How To Fill it Out?) Has anyone had their card checked?", EuphoricSSP was looking for help making a card that indicated he'd received a covid vaccine when he had not, so that he (a Texan) could work in New York. There was a discussion or even debate about whether that's illegal / a crime.

For whoever might be curious, the FBI takes the position that doing so is a crime. At the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center, specifically at https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2021/PSA210330, the FBI posted:
quote:

[T]he unauthorized use of an official government agency's seal (such as HHS or the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)) is a crime, and may be punishable under Title 18 United States Code, Section 1017, and other applicable laws.
That actual law says:
quote:

18 U.S.C. § 1017. Government seals wrongfully used and instruments wrongfully sealed
Whoever fraudulently or wrongfully affixes or impresses the seal of any department or agency of the United States, to or upon any certificate, instrument, commission, document, or paper or with knowledge of its fraudulent character, with wrongful or fraudulent intent, uses, buys, procures, sells, or transfers to another any such certificate, instrument, commission, document, or paper, to which or upon which said seal has been so fraudulently affixed or impressed, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
See, e.g., https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2019-title18/pdf/USCODE-2019-title18-partI-chap47-sec1017.pdf.

So the FBI says it is a crime under a specific federal statute that says you can get five years in the hoosegow for violations.

I'm not saying it is or isn't a violation of this statute, or a crime at all. I'm just letting you know the FBI's position, and the basis for that position, and you can decide for yourself.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23449 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:04 pm to
Snitches get stitches
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
14209 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:04 pm to
I lost my fake vaccination card in a tragic boating accident
Posted by Usual Suspect
Living rent free
Member since Jun 2013
2577 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:09 pm to
From what I can tell the digital records are all over the place with these things, otherwise they wouldn't be giving people a fricking hand written 3x5 index card.

Good luck enforcing it limp dicks.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:10 pm to
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Whoever fraudulently or wrongfully affixes or impresses the seal of any department or agency of the United States,


Just smug the seal a little bit and people looking won't notice it's an unofficial seal. The law says it has to be the "seal" not the likeness of the seal.
Posted by NOLATiger163
Insane State of NOLA
Member since Aug 2018
621 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

Snitches get stitches
But when you go on a totally-public forum of international renown--like TigerDroppings--and post about yourself that you're making a fake vaccine card, it kind of sounds like you're snitching on yourself.

Or are you saying that Chicken is going to see EuphoricSSP on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted Covidders list and turn him in for the big reward money?
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26391 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:12 pm to
Common sense would allow people to have a documented positive test with their state to prove natural immunity and act as a “vaccine card”. But that will never happen.
Posted by Dulacrat
Member since Jan 2021
1610 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:13 pm to
Which FBI? The Federal Bureau of Indoctrination?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:16 pm to
Who cares. If you get one from me, I’ll throw in a counterfeit beanie baby for your daughter and a jar of moonshine for pops if you use the code TD4EVER.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

Common sense would allow people to have a documented positive test with their state to prove natural immunity and act as a “vaccine card”.


Well, thats not politically expedient.

quote:

But that will never happen.


Never
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 11:18 pm
Posted by Misnomer
Member since Apr 2020
3737 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:16 pm to
These cards don’t mean anything. This is hilarious

Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23701 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:18 pm to
I heard the real ones have a watermark on the back to tell if it's real or fake.
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
2527 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:28 pm to
Federal Bureau of Inoculation?
Posted by EuphoricSSP
Member since Feb 2021
822 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:29 pm to
I'm going to do it still frick you.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:29 pm to
I can picture the individual who fakes a vaccine card being the same one who swears he's encountered a black panther while hunting.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54807 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:29 pm to
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18 U.S.C. § 1017. Government seals wrongfully used and instruments wrongfully sealed
Whoever fraudulently or wrongfully affixes or impresses the seal of any department or agency of the United States, to or upon any certificate, instrument, commission, document, or paper or with knowledge of its fraudulent character, with wrongful or fraudulent intent, uses, buys, procures, sells, or transfers to another any such certificate, instrument, commission, document, or paper, to which or upon which said seal has been so fraudulently affixed or impressed, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.


So these people going through all this effort when they could just go get a shot in their arm
Posted by EuphoricSSP
Member since Feb 2021
822 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:32 pm to
quote:

So these people going through all this effort when they could just go get a shot in their arm



Why are they so desperate for people to get a vaccine for a virus that has a 99% survival rate?
Posted by EuphoricSSP
Member since Feb 2021
822 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:34 pm to
quote:

But when you go on a totally-public forum of international renown--like TigerDroppings--and post about yourself that you're making a fake vaccine card, it kind of sounds like you're snitching on yourself.

Or are you saying that Chicken is going to see EuphoricSSP on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted Covidders list and turn him in for the big reward money?


The fact that you went out of your way to post this goes to show just how brainwashed you are.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34258 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:43 pm to
But a fake dossier isnt. Weird
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