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FBI says fake covid vaccination card is a crime
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:03 pm
Around here people have debated whether it is a crime and/or otherwise illegal to make yourself a fake covid vaccine card. For example, in the recent TigerDroppings thread "Got a Vaccination Card (How To Fill it Out?) Has anyone had their card checked?", EuphoricSSP was looking for help making a card that indicated he'd received a covid vaccine when he had not, so that he (a Texan) could work in New York. There was a discussion or even debate about whether that's illegal / a crime.
For whoever might be curious, the FBI takes the position that doing so is a crime. At the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center, specifically at https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2021/PSA210330, the FBI posted:
So the FBI says it is a crime under a specific federal statute that says you can get five years in the hoosegow for violations.
I'm not saying it is or isn't a violation of this statute, or a crime at all. I'm just letting you know the FBI's position, and the basis for that position, and you can decide for yourself.
For whoever might be curious, the FBI takes the position that doing so is a crime. At the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center, specifically at https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2021/PSA210330, the FBI posted:
quote:That actual law says:
[T]he unauthorized use of an official government agency's seal (such as HHS or the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)) is a crime, and may be punishable under Title 18 United States Code, Section 1017, and other applicable laws.
quote:See, e.g., https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2019-title18/pdf/USCODE-2019-title18-partI-chap47-sec1017.pdf.
18 U.S.C. § 1017. Government seals wrongfully used and instruments wrongfully sealed
Whoever fraudulently or wrongfully affixes or impresses the seal of any department or agency of the United States, to or upon any certificate, instrument, commission, document, or paper or with knowledge of its fraudulent character, with wrongful or fraudulent intent, uses, buys, procures, sells, or transfers to another any such certificate, instrument, commission, document, or paper, to which or upon which said seal has been so fraudulently affixed or impressed, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
So the FBI says it is a crime under a specific federal statute that says you can get five years in the hoosegow for violations.
I'm not saying it is or isn't a violation of this statute, or a crime at all. I'm just letting you know the FBI's position, and the basis for that position, and you can decide for yourself.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:04 pm to NOLATiger163
Snitches get stitches
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:04 pm to NOLATiger163
I lost my fake vaccination card in a tragic boating accident
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:09 pm to NOLATiger163
From what I can tell the digital records are all over the place with these things, otherwise they wouldn't be giving people a fricking hand written 3x5 index card.
Good luck enforcing it limp dicks.
Good luck enforcing it limp dicks.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:10 pm to NOLATiger163
quote:
Whoever fraudulently or wrongfully affixes or impresses the seal of any department or agency of the United States,
Just smug the seal a little bit and people looking won't notice it's an unofficial seal. The law says it has to be the "seal" not the likeness of the seal.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:10 pm to rsbd
quote:But when you go on a totally-public forum of international renown--like TigerDroppings--and post about yourself that you're making a fake vaccine card, it kind of sounds like you're snitching on yourself.
Snitches get stitches
Or are you saying that Chicken is going to see EuphoricSSP on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted Covidders list and turn him in for the big reward money?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:12 pm to HerkFlyer
Common sense would allow people to have a documented positive test with their state to prove natural immunity and act as a “vaccine card”. But that will never happen.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:13 pm to saderade
Which FBI? The Federal Bureau of Indoctrination?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:16 pm to NOLATiger163
Who cares. If you get one from me, I’ll throw in a counterfeit beanie baby for your daughter and a jar of moonshine for pops if you use the code TD4EVER.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:16 pm to saderade
quote:
Common sense would allow people to have a documented positive test with their state to prove natural immunity and act as a “vaccine card”.
Well, thats not politically expedient.
quote:
But that will never happen.
Never
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:16 pm to NOLATiger163
These cards don’t mean anything. This is hilarious
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:18 pm to NOLATiger163
I heard the real ones have a watermark on the back to tell if it's real or fake.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:28 pm to Dulacrat
Federal Bureau of Inoculation?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:29 pm to NOLATiger163
I'm going to do it still
frick you.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:29 pm to NOLATiger163
I can picture the individual who fakes a vaccine card being the same one who swears he's encountered a black panther while hunting.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:29 pm to NOLATiger163
quote:
18 U.S.C. § 1017. Government seals wrongfully used and instruments wrongfully sealed
Whoever fraudulently or wrongfully affixes or impresses the seal of any department or agency of the United States, to or upon any certificate, instrument, commission, document, or paper or with knowledge of its fraudulent character, with wrongful or fraudulent intent, uses, buys, procures, sells, or transfers to another any such certificate, instrument, commission, document, or paper, to which or upon which said seal has been so fraudulently affixed or impressed, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
So these people going through all this effort when they could just go get a shot in their arm
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:32 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
So these people going through all this effort when they could just go get a shot in their arm
Why are they so desperate for people to get a vaccine for a virus that has a 99% survival rate?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:34 pm to NOLATiger163
quote:
But when you go on a totally-public forum of international renown--like TigerDroppings--and post about yourself that you're making a fake vaccine card, it kind of sounds like you're snitching on yourself.
Or are you saying that Chicken is going to see EuphoricSSP on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted Covidders list and turn him in for the big reward money?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:43 pm to NOLATiger163
But a fake dossier isnt. Weird
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