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re: Explain the "flatten the curve" concept
Posted on 4/24/20 at 8:57 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 4/24/20 at 8:57 pm to East Coast Band
If I had to get it, I'd much rather get it later in a flat curve rather than an early peak that comes when health professionals are learing on the fly and the number of people is stretching the hospitals, supplies and equipment.
I personally had no desire to lay on a stretcher or bed in a hospital hallway while exhausted doctors and nurses wearing reused protective gear and trying to figure out best treatments and procedures try to keep up.
Your mileage may vary, of course.
I personally had no desire to lay on a stretcher or bed in a hospital hallway while exhausted doctors and nurses wearing reused protective gear and trying to figure out best treatments and procedures try to keep up.
Your mileage may vary, of course.
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 9:00 pm to East Coast Band
This is a "novel" corona virus. Meaning nobody has any immunity. The same amount of people will get it regardless of all at once or flattened over time unless there is a vaccine.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 9:50 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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The same amount of people will get it regardless of all at once or flattened over time unless there is a vaccine.
So, if that's the case, like I said, why do we need to continue the lockdown if hospitals are not overwhelmed?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 9:54 pm to East Coast Band
To ensure that we've successfully flattened the curve, buy time to properly plan out moving forward. Lockdown ends in a week.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 9:54 pm to East Coast Band
You’re going to get infected, but take the precautions to spread out when you get it. Simple
Posted on 4/24/20 at 9:55 pm to East Coast Band
UAB Hospital in Birmingham is the largest employer in Alabama.
In “flattening the curve” they are losing 70 million per month. The fed gave them 30 million to fill the gap.
If we make room in UAB hospital (for all 185 COVID 19 people they have treated so far) - and they go bankrupt... who steps up to take care of the next wave of COVID 19?
In “flattening the curve” they are losing 70 million per month. The fed gave them 30 million to fill the gap.
If we make room in UAB hospital (for all 185 COVID 19 people they have treated so far) - and they go bankrupt... who steps up to take care of the next wave of COVID 19?
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:00 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:01 pm to East Coast Band
Health care capacity line on that graph is the key.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:03 pm to Zappas Stache
We're nowhere near "health care capacity" in any city in the US,
But again my point is that this chart implies the same number of people will get the virus regardless of what preventative measures are taken
But again my point is that this chart implies the same number of people will get the virus regardless of what preventative measures are taken
This post was edited on 4/24/20 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:04 pm to East Coast Band
We needed to buy some time. I don’t know what’s the best time to reopen but we are much better equipped to deal with the virus today than we were 2 months ago and that’s because we bought some time and spent it churning long PPE, ventilators, tests, as well as getting a better understanding of how this thing behaves.
This absolutely can’t last forever or even much longer IMO but I think we roughly did somewhat the correct thing.
This absolutely can’t last forever or even much longer IMO but I think we roughly did somewhat the correct thing.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:05 pm to East Coast Band
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So, if that's the case, like I said, why do we need to continue the lockdown if hospitals are not overwhelmed?
WE DONT!!!
As long as the hospitals have room we have no reason. This was All about the healthcare capacity. Period.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:05 pm to East Coast Band
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We're nowhere near "health care capacity" in any city in the US,
So we flattend the curve by locking down.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:05 pm to Zappas Stache
You want the curve riding right under the hospital capacity line.
Right now we have a gap and need to steepen the curve.
Right now we have a gap and need to steepen the curve.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:06 pm to Zappas Stache
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So we flattend the curve by locking down.
that and this not being nearly as bad as the models predicted
our curve is too flat. we need a LOT more cases
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:07 pm to Zappas Stache
My point is that it's assumed that if you are going to get the virus, you're going to get it now or later.
We have capacity now, let's get this over with
We have capacity now, let's get this over with
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:08 pm to East Coast Band
We have capacity for a mitigated spread, yes that seems likely. Unmitigated spread? Doubtful.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:10 pm to East Coast Band
flatten the curve wasn't just about healthcare capacity
y'all are ignoring the need to delay the spikes in order to obtain resources and find an effective treatment schedule
we have done 2 out of 3 and we are beginning to open back up
hopefully we have a defined treatment schedule by the time this shite ramps back up in the fall
y'all are ignoring the need to delay the spikes in order to obtain resources and find an effective treatment schedule
we have done 2 out of 3 and we are beginning to open back up
hopefully we have a defined treatment schedule by the time this shite ramps back up in the fall
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:10 pm to East Coast Band
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Their big concern is to not overwhelm the hospitals all at once (like everyone showing up to eat at the same time).
Since we've not overwhelmed
So they say.
On a local level, the loudest fear-mongering crowds, surprise, seem to he the ones who demand government checks and extortion tactics to begin with. This virus is their perfect platform weapon.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:14 pm to PiscesTiger
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On a local level, the loudest fear-mongering crowds, surprise, seem to he the ones who demand government checks and extortion tactics to begin with. This virus is their perfect platform weapon.
Where do you live? Interestingly, in Dallas, the traditional Democrat and Republican both are the biggest proponents of opening things up. The moderates......and I'm talking about the county commissioners......the moderates on each side seem to be the ones voting for lockdown extensions.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 10:17 pm to Zappas Stache
I live in BR and I am talking about a semi-loud minority. Check the usual...Gravy, Kibbles, Chuana. But there is a demand among the left (and I am sorry...I wish I did not have to be politically driven here) to keep things closed. Every noon Covid report is bad news, no matter what. And this virus is racist blah blah.
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