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re: Everyone wants to blame the media, but it seems the CDC and W.H.O are fueling this fire.

Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:37 pm to
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2406 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:37 pm to
On January 30, 2020 the WHO urged countries not to restrict travel or trade to China. They went so far as to commend China for their handling of events.

Here's the press release.


They urged kumbaya. Imagine if Trump had not shutdown flights to China while the Senate was busy having an impeachment trial.

quote:

“This is the time for science, not rumors,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said following a meeting of the agency’s emergency committee. “This is the time for solidarity, not stigma.”


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:53 pm to
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I don’t care what anyone says. This is all so absurd.

Completely surreal.

I want to say that, but seeing what's going down in Italy makes it hard to truly get there all the way, no?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:57 pm to
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I mean we can die in a car accident. Am I not supposed to drive to work?

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I work in a hospital.
God, I hope you don't work in a clinical setting with that comparison


Is a car accident contagious? Are the amount of car accidents in America doubling every few days?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:01 pm to
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In 2009, there were up to 1.4 billion worldwide cases of the Swine Flu in the one year it was a global pandemic.

For the coronavirus, since the breakout in Wuhan, China months ago, there are 132,536 confirmed cases worldwide.

With the swine flu, there were up to 575,000 deaths worldwide associated with disease over the course of the entire pandemic.

Months into the coronavirus there have been 4,947 deaths worldwide.

In the United States, there were 61 million cases of confirmed swine flu.



Now that's over a year vs 4 months. But...
So the mortality rate is wayyyyyyy higher than swine flu AND cases are growing more rapidly than swine flu.

That's the gist of what I got from what you're saying.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6980 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:16 pm to
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Oh, and frick china.


Can’t be said enough.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:20 pm to
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If you keep using facts to back up your argument you’re going to get banned or attacked. We can’t have facts we must use emotions only.

What your glib retort fails to take into account is that the Chinese mitigated disaster by taking extraordinary proactive measures. Using those numbers as a justification for not taking said measures is beyond moronic. But this is the OT on Tigerdroppings so no surprise there.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:25 pm to
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I pity the fuel


I can’t let this SEVERELY underrated post just slide on by. Well done, homie.
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:46 am to
This will be a good thread to review after all this shite has calmed down.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46721 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:58 am to
Nah. The people hyperventilating over this will have moved on to hyperventilating over the next thing. It’s what people who are ruled by their emotions do.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13206 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:00 am to
CDC and WHO workers double down on their own job security in such times...
Posted by chitiger91
Lake Bluff IL
Member since Apr 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:23 am to
There is something else going on here, I’ve been trying to do some digging to figure it out but can’t. This “social distancing” concept is absolutely disgusting, I think it’s some kind of capitalistic venture (mega companies, apple, Amazon etc.) using the gov to create separation in society to rely more on tech.

I don’t believe that actually but I’ve been throwing shite at a wall to see what I can put together in my mind, nothing to watch on TV anyway.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24485 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:40 am to
You absolutely cannot compare H1N1 to Covid at this time or in early growth. H1n1 numbers are in hindsight and with all research used, Covid numbers are completely unreliable right now. MANY people have been sick in the states with a virus the last couple months tha likely comes out to be Covid. It’s likely millions of Americans already had Covid and the rates drop drastically once it’s analyzed in years to come.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7245 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:58 am to
WHO had test to give to us in January. Trump did not accept them. It was around the same time he was trying to pay the German doctor to create a cure for US only. We could have been testing people months ago. This could have somewhat been avoided and not spun out of control like it has.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
8393 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:00 am to
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Please explain this. I would like to know.


Can identify much more mild cases in less fragile people. Similar to how we identify other diseases earlier then proclaim the 5/10 year survival rate has increased.
Posted by phunkatron
Member since Jun 2019
1444 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:03 am to
400 people died in Italy yesterday, but it's just a cold.
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1911 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:05 am to
The United States is not Italy!
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12461 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:07 am to
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A virus that is having a 7% fatality rate in Italy right now.


Italy has the oldest population in Europe. They are also only providing minimal treatment to those over 60 and damn near no treatment to those over 80.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:23 am to
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Now that's over a year vs 4 months. But...


But? That statement makes the rest of your post completely irrelevant.
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4051 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:33 am to
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They are also only providing minimal treatment to those over 60 and damn near no treatment to those over 80.


So who exactly are they treating, then? Wouldn’t it be a waste of resources for them to treat younger people since it’s a common cold?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46721 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:58 am to
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WHO had test to give to us in January. Trump did not accept them.


The CDC did not accept them. Trump had nothing to do with it. It's laughable you think the President is involved to that level of minutiae.
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