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re: Every time I passed on a real estate purchase because the price was too high...

Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5602 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:52 pm to
Me too and I’m tired of it. I’m pulling the trigger on a flip
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
5719 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:54 pm to
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Im a millenial

Obviously.

You should proof read before posting.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
3511 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:27 pm to
So you're a realtor then....
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
2499 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:57 pm to
Bought my 4200 sf home in 2012 for $249k. The original owners had bought it for $289 new in 2007. It was the model home in a neighborhood that only had 10 custom homes built before the builder folded. Refinanced to a 2.25 rate a couple of years ago and changed to a 15 year term. I pay around $2400 a month and have 13 years to go but plan to pay off in 10. It appraised at $520k in March of this year. I don’t need the size of the house any longer as 2 of my kids have left and recently graduated from college but still don’t plan on selling. I am going to get my other 2 kids out of HS (5 years to go) and then sell and just buy a small 3 bedroom one story in the Florida panhandle and pay cash for it.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33481 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:58 pm to
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Now consider if your home appreciates 5%/yr
Long-term American real estate has compounded at like 100% over the past century. 5% a year would be insane.

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but in general, rent almost never beats owning.
This is simply false. It's highly situational and it's the type of "thinking" that led in part to the housing bubble 15 years ago.

I also think your P & I numbers and tax assumptions are off.

I also don't see any allowance for maintenance - which a conservative analysis would allow at least 1% of property value per year for.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48633 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:59 pm to
We bought our first house in 2007 and sold it for less than we paid for it 8-9 years later.

We'd have ultimately been good if we could have stayed in it for 13-15 years, but we needed to move.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 1:59 pm to
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They all appreciate faster then throwing money away on rent

I didn't realize that shelter was considered a frivolous expense. Who knew?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:02 pm to
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People have been saying that literally forever...and yet real estate values continue to increase.


Until one day the other foot drops and you get left holding the bag. It can't just keep magically going forever you know.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71443 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:06 pm to
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It’s a shitty reality for those who didn’t buy a few years ago, but what you can afford is what you can afford. It’s unlikely to get much better going forward. Do you think those houses that are 375k are going to magically drop back down to 275k?


People actually think this and it's comical.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
1680 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:26 pm to
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it's the type of "thinking" that led in part to the housing bubble 15 years ago.


1 bazzallion % wrong. What got us into the housing bubble back then was 0% down, no doc loans made available to literally anyone who asked for it fueling speculation at an unsustainable level. This market is completely different.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33481 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:49 pm to
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1 bazzallion % wrong. What got us into the housing bubble back then was 0% down, no doc loans made available to literally anyone who asked for it fueling speculation at an unsustainable level.
I said "in part" - and I'm right. The people taking the 0% down, no doc loans were motivated to do so because they were fed a steady diet of "you get the mortgage deduction!" and "real estate never goes down!" and "renting is throwing away your money!" nonsense.

If you had a realistic idea of real estate, you wouldn't just willy nilly buy properties - even with overly-friendly financing.

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This market is completely different.
Oh, I agree it's different. But that doesn't change the falsity of the statement "renting is almost always throwing your money away".
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33481 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:50 pm to
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changed to a 15 year term
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but plan to pay off in 10.


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efinanced to a 2.25 rate


why
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2437 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:29 pm to
Ok, I'll bite. Send me the Zillow link to your house that you're trying to sell. My guess is you have it listed based upon last year's crazy market and you can't understand why no one wants to buy yours today.
Posted by texn
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Member since Nov 2019
3511 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:15 pm to
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You should proof read before posting.


The irony
Posted by Yeahright
On a big sphere out there.
Member since Sep 2018
1932 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 4:15 pm to
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All of you complaining and waiting will only be in a worse situation down the road.

sidewalkside knows about ALL ya'll fools.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28343 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:31 pm to
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renting is almost always throwing your money away".


At the end of the day is it going into your pocket or someone else’s?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 10/12/23 at 5:33 pm to
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renting is almost always throwing your money away".


owning your primary residence doesn’t have the tax advantages it used to, investing in real estate is still one of the best ways to accumulate wealth
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