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Euro Court of Human Rights: 10 month old baby to be taken off life support

Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23298 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:22 pm
Charlie Gard is ten months old child in the UK with a rare medical condition that is generally viewed as terminal. His parents wanted him to go to the U.S. for experimental treatment. The Courts? No. They then wanted him to be at home when he passes. No. They wanted him in hospice? No.

The doctors did decide to let the baby live a few more days so that parents can have some special time with the baby.

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British courts decided Charlie should be allowed to die after a heartbreaking legal battle in which doctors asserted that the child had no chance of survival, and Charlie's parents argued there was an experimental treatment in the United States they had not tried. The case was taken all the way to the European Court of Human Rights, which declined to hear the case Tuesday, upholding previous court rulings that it was in Charlie's best interest to withdraw life support.


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Yates, Charlie's mother, said through tears Thursday that Aug. 4, 2016, was the best day of their lives because it was “the day that Charlie was born.” June 30, 2017, she added, would be the worst day of their lives. “We know what day our son is going to die, and we don't even get any say in what happens to him,” Charlie's father said.










Story of Charlie Gard

Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18255 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:24 pm to
Such freedom in Europe. The US should model ourselves to follow their example
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:25 pm to
I was so excited and upbeat about the upcoming weekend and this story just smashed all that.
Posted by LigerFan
Member since Jan 2014
2711 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:25 pm to
Frick whoever is letting this kid just die
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:26 pm to
There's discussion here at this link Charlie Gard
Posted by Swagga
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:26 pm to
Can someone explain to me how a court can tell a parent their child has to die? I'm completely lost on this, maybe I'm retarded.
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:27 pm to
I would find every "person" on this Court of Human Rights and murder them painfully.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:28 pm to
Damn, did she really take a selfie of them sleeping?
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:28 pm to
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Frick whoever is letting this kid just die




God?

Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6528 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:29 pm to
Very sad, but the parents are probably in denial and delusional.

"Doctors have said he cannot see, hear, move, cry or swallow."

I'd like to know more about this experimental treatment. With a child in that condition, as heartbreaking as it is, it truly sounds like there's no hope.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32479 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Frick whoever is letting this kid just die


As much as it sucks, they are doing the right thing.

They can keep the child in as least pain as possible at the hospital.

Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:30 pm to
This shows the freedom that we have in the U.S.

Eta:

However, their government made the best decision for all parties. It makes it easier on the parents. Here, a hospital would have bankrupted the couple before the kid died.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32479 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

This shows the freedom that we have in the U.S.


Terry Schiavo
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6528 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:31 pm to
And here's the truth...

But doctors at GOSH concluded that the experimental treatment, which is not designed to be curative, would not improve Charlie’s quality of life.


Not curative. They're just extending the inevitable.

Very sad but parents are irrationale (for understandable reasons) and can't see the forest through the trees. Reminds me of Schiavo case.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20182 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:31 pm to
Muh government run healthcare
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72004 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:31 pm to
Socialized medicine in action.

When you hand medical care over to the state, you hand decision making over to them too.

All actions have consequences.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Can someone explain to me how a court can tell a parent their child has to die? I'm completely lost on this, maybe I'm retarded.


Me too. Why the frick can't the parents transport their kid wherever they want for whatever treatment they feel is best?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72004 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Very sad but parents are irrationale (for understandable reasons) and can't see the forest through the trees. Reminds me of Schiavo case.
So, that is the government's decision to make?

Even if private funds are being used?
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6528 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:33 pm to
"There is significant harm if what the parents want for Charlie comes into effect," she told appeal judges. "The significant harm is a condition of existence which is offering the child no benefit."

She added: "It is inhuman to permit that condition to continue."

A banner hung on railings outside Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children in London
A banner hung on railings outside Great Ormond Street Hospital for Children in London CREDIT: PA
Ms Gollop said nobody knew whether Charlie was in pain.

"Nobody knows because it is so very difficult because of the ravages of Charlie's condition," she said.

"He cannot see, he cannot hear, he cannot make a noise, he cannot move."



Parents may be prolonging the child's suffering. Obviously, this is a tricky case.
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