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Engineer review boards for American vehicle manufacturers
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:36 am
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:36 am
How do they look at each other and sign off on these vehicles with multiple problems?
How does the lead engineer say, this will be the vehicle that doesn’t land us in another class action lawsuit?
From what I can tell, these manufacturers are enduring class action lawsuits:
Ford: 6 models
GM: 8 models
CDRJ: 7 models
I understand that our federal government has boxed these companies in with regulations.
And I understand that planned obsolescence creates cash flow for service and sales.
But it also creates the exploitation that foreign car manufacturers need to break into the American car market.
Cash for clunkers sealed the deal. There were motors that could last for decades that we ACTUALLY PAID TO POUR GLASS INTO.
Yes that’s a federal problem.
But over the last 100 years, we have had the opportunity to create the world’s best cars. Possibly even the perfect car, and we refuse to.
Transmissions;
Electronics;
Engines/lifters;
CV joints
All of these could have been perfected. And the best country in the world simply failed.
How does the lead engineer say, this will be the vehicle that doesn’t land us in another class action lawsuit?
From what I can tell, these manufacturers are enduring class action lawsuits:
Ford: 6 models
GM: 8 models
CDRJ: 7 models
I understand that our federal government has boxed these companies in with regulations.
And I understand that planned obsolescence creates cash flow for service and sales.
But it also creates the exploitation that foreign car manufacturers need to break into the American car market.
Cash for clunkers sealed the deal. There were motors that could last for decades that we ACTUALLY PAID TO POUR GLASS INTO.
Yes that’s a federal problem.
But over the last 100 years, we have had the opportunity to create the world’s best cars. Possibly even the perfect car, and we refuse to.
Transmissions;
Electronics;
Engines/lifters;
CV joints
All of these could have been perfected. And the best country in the world simply failed.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:14 am to dstone12
Cant make money if everyone keeps their cars for 20 years because they are perfect....
Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:24 am to dstone12
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But over the last 100 years, we have had the opportunity to create the world’s best cars. Possibly even the perfect car, and we refuse to.
Tesla has some of the safest and best-selling cars in the world and are doing it without spending millions marketing their products through commercials. I saw an article about the Model 3 just received five-star rating from NHTSA in all categories. I believe the cyber truck is the only truck to have done the same.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:40 am to dstone12
The short answer is that engineers arent making decisions. Accountants and government regulatory bodies are making the decisions.
The kinds of men who put men on the moon with slide rules have no voice in large publicly traded companies anymore, and largely dont work for them anymore because of it.
So, hold on to your arse because it's just going to continue getting worse year over year until we have a major corporate cultural change, which i dont see happening this decade or even the next.
The kinds of men who put men on the moon with slide rules have no voice in large publicly traded companies anymore, and largely dont work for them anymore because of it.
So, hold on to your arse because it's just going to continue getting worse year over year until we have a major corporate cultural change, which i dont see happening this decade or even the next.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:14 am to jpainter6174
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Cant make money if everyone keeps their cars for 20 years because they are perfect....
Same as the healthcare industry
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:15 am to dstone12
the corporations write their own laws, and capture their regulatory agencies
that's the problem across the board.
that's the problem across the board.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:49 am to dstone12
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Cash for clunkers sealed the deal.
Took almost 700,000 used vehicles off the road. Many of them viable.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:01 am to dstone12
GMC’s transmission issues deserve to put them out of business. If you ever had the shudder, you know what I’m talking about
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:13 am to dstone12
Part of the problem is that (just as a 'starter' home is now around 2000sf) even basic cars now are so loaded with contraptions that just the nature of complexity invites failures, and many seem to want the luxuries.
I do wonder tho, if a big 3 actually offered a basic 4 cyl auto (think roll up windows, 14" rims) would sell very well, but that would affect their bottom line. My guess is that many would line up for a $15k car with no systemic computers and maybe a manual transmission option. Higher reliability, lower ins rates, etc. My guess is that the big 3 have this data, the numbers are encouraging, but refuse to budge.
I do wonder tho, if a big 3 actually offered a basic 4 cyl auto (think roll up windows, 14" rims) would sell very well, but that would affect their bottom line. My guess is that many would line up for a $15k car with no systemic computers and maybe a manual transmission option. Higher reliability, lower ins rates, etc. My guess is that the big 3 have this data, the numbers are encouraging, but refuse to budge.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:34 am to Sams Crow
The jeep duck thing and cruise duck thing are kinda tied and started way earlier than anything on the internet shows them starting. I think cruise ducks were spawned from a girl seeing jeep ducks and starting it on cruise ships.
Jeep ones started way earlier. Earliest I have been able to track it is to locals to US129/The dragon. They had been putting devil ducks on each other's cars and motorcycles in the early 00s for fun and to signify someone cool with the local group. I don't think they were the first either, but I don't know where they got it from when they started doing it. Lots of 4x4 and jeep groups come to the area and there were a lot of locals in both groups. It just turned into regular ducks from there. People had ducks in jeeps way before late 2010s though.
Jeep ones started way earlier. Earliest I have been able to track it is to locals to US129/The dragon. They had been putting devil ducks on each other's cars and motorcycles in the early 00s for fun and to signify someone cool with the local group. I don't think they were the first either, but I don't know where they got it from when they started doing it. Lots of 4x4 and jeep groups come to the area and there were a lot of locals in both groups. It just turned into regular ducks from there. People had ducks in jeeps way before late 2010s though.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 11:36 am
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:38 am to dstone12
Rule #1 in engineering. At some point you will have to put your name on something that is shite, and you have no control over that decision.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:05 pm to dstone12
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And I understand that planned obsolescence creates cash flow for service and sales.
But it also creates the exploitation that foreign car manufacturers need to break into the American car market.
I think that horse got out the gate a long time ago
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:09 pm to jpainter6174
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Cant make money if everyone keeps their cars for 20 years because they are perfect....
Or if they can work on them without it being a hassle.
Look at trucks 20 years ago. Lots of room under the hood, components easy to get to to swap out when they go back.
Now, you have to take the entire front end of the truck and the radiator out to swap out a headlight.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:23 pm to GoAwayImBaitn
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I think that horse got out the gate a long time ago
Indeed.
But that’s proof it’s a thing and now you have to worry about the second horse being Chinese electrics.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 1:26 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The short answer is that engineers arent making decisions. Accountants and government regulatory bodies are making the decisions.
Yep
You can tell when they put non engineers in charge of these companies. Boeing is another classic example.
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