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re: Electric cars cleaner than any gas-only car for 97 percent of U.S. drivers
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:39 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:39 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Solar will never be the answer to anything other than very small needs. Wind is extraordinarily cost prohibitive.
So leave the fossil fuels for industry.. solar could quite easily power your house if you live in a sunny area.
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:40 pm to JBeam
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Why do people get so defensive over fossil fuels on this website?
Because we are clearly trying to take guns, force government healthcare, raise taxes, make everyone drive electric Yugo's, etc. etc.
Damn we can't even have a conversation here.
Muh rights!
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:41 pm to Clames
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Even at 100% efficiency, solar panels can't supply enough power to meet projected demand unless they cover enough usable land to make growing crops a dim prospect. Seriously, why do so many of you not do a little simple math before buying off on the promises of solar power, EVs, and the hundreds of others?
Wut?
Do you even know where fossil fuels come from and how the latent energy originated?
Assuming overall 10% efficiency (test designs of PV have pushed 50% already, and 20+% is currently possible with commercial designs), and using the average insolation of Colorado as a bench mark, you can power the entire country with a photovoltaic area of around twice that of Rhode Island.
You can stick that all in Texas and most would never see it. And the idea isn't to have it all in one place. Id be interested to see the math on solar tiles, because that is where the future is.
But GTFO with this crap that simple math isn't there for solar to be even a possibility. The energy is there. We just need to figure out how to tap it.
Will we ever be 100% solar? Probably not.
But in time the technology will allow for a sizable chunk of our consumption to be.
Edited out a little nugget of stupidity not relevant to the point.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:46 pm to iPadThai
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The Union of Concerned Scientists
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: I can only imagine the scams they have pulled in so called studies to get that Government grant $$$$$$$$$$$.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:58 pm to Volvagia
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A 3 foot by 3 foot tile gets enough power to run your house
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:05 pm to JBeam
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o the discussion on the future of alternative fueled automobiles is needed.
And we're having it. But from my perspective the green energy crowd always comes off as preachy like evangelicals. They aren't here for a discussion. They're here for a conversion. They want to present their argument, then I MUST agree with them and agree to alternative energy. I find them more offensive than effective at stating their case.
Again JMO. I'm sure they're not all like that. But that's how I perceive them.
Even if they're argument is irrefutable, I still reserve the right to not accept it and opt for fossil fuels. They don't seem to handle that well either.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:08 pm to Volvagia
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For frick's sake, a 3 foot by 3 foot square on your roof gets enough power to run your entire house for six months....every day.
Yeah this little nugget right here is gonna need a link.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:24 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Looking back, you are correct.
In the monthly value, I was translating electric bill in terms of watt hours....not kilowatt hours. Brain fart. Units I was comparing to was in kWh/m^2/day.
The rest of the post's math stands however.
In the monthly value, I was translating electric bill in terms of watt hours....not kilowatt hours. Brain fart. Units I was comparing to was in kWh/m^2/day.
The rest of the post's math stands however.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:30 pm to iPadThai
Colorado/ Wyoming! frick yeah!
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:35 pm to iPadThai
Can I drive more than 60 miles while driving normally?
How much CO2 released into atmosphere to provide electrical charging stations?
How many charging stations would you need if each car had to be charged for 4 hours every 60-80 miles?
So you say use solar panels to power charging stations. What happens when the sun doesn't shine for 4-5 days?
Can I pull a trailer with a 1/2 ton worth of junk in it?
Do I have to replace $10,000 batteries every 3 years?
Maybe some of these have been improved over the last several years, but that's what I recall being the case 5=7 years ago.
351C in a 68 Mustang fastback with a 4 speed toploader, four barrel Holley, electronic ignition and 101 octane; end of discussion for me.
No the polar ice caps are not melting.
That about covers my thoughts.
How much CO2 released into atmosphere to provide electrical charging stations?
How many charging stations would you need if each car had to be charged for 4 hours every 60-80 miles?
So you say use solar panels to power charging stations. What happens when the sun doesn't shine for 4-5 days?
Can I pull a trailer with a 1/2 ton worth of junk in it?
Do I have to replace $10,000 batteries every 3 years?
Maybe some of these have been improved over the last several years, but that's what I recall being the case 5=7 years ago.
351C in a 68 Mustang fastback with a 4 speed toploader, four barrel Holley, electronic ignition and 101 octane; end of discussion for me.
No the polar ice caps are not melting.
That about covers my thoughts.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:40 am to upgrayedd
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Link?
That rig alone would have to weigh 40,000 pounds
They aren't on the street yet, but they are soon from what I've read. It's actually a hydrogen powered electric motor.
https://nikolamotor.com/one
So we have Tesla and now Nikola motors haha.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:44 am to iPadThai
By the rough looks of it, it seems as though the higher numbers coincide with areas that have more slow traffic and more people (more cars).
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:50 am to tigerinthebueche
quote:Perhaps the price you see is cheap, but it's far from clear that overall cost is "cheap".
cheap
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:57 am to iPadThai
That plant food sure is dangerous. CO2 has to go.
Posted on 6/7/17 at 10:59 am to larry289
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No the polar ice caps are not melting
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 11:01 am
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:05 am to larry289
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Do I have to replace $10,000 batteries every 3 years?
Tesla's batteries come with a 10 year warranty against failure.
Research shows the batteries still hold 90% of their charge after 130K miles
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