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re: Drainage issue - pissed off neighbors
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:21 am to lsu777
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:21 am to lsu777
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Well city says your wrong and the city engineers and planning is willing to put it in writing. But I'm gonna talk to him about it and try and come up to a solution.
Good luck with that. They are saying that because they are puckered up realizing they may also have culpability for approving the drainage plan. The engineer who stamped the plan should also be sweating it.
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:21 am to lsu777
He’ll end up blocking the water where your lawn meets, then the problem will be yours.
If he doesn’t do this he’s an idiot.
If he doesn’t do this he’s an idiot.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:24 am to lsu777
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My lawyer neighbor dealt with this also when he built and city ruled in his favor. He did add a couple drains to help the guy, which I would be more than happy to do except I have the main fiber optic cable running on our adjoining property line.
So the neighbor already knew he was in the wrong when he came at you first thing in the morning?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:24 am to Jester
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Good luck with that. They are saying that because they are puckered up realizing they may also have culpability for approving the drainage plan. The engineer who stamped the plan should also be sweating it.
Like I said from the phone conversation she is saying that the drainage plan for their neighborhood says they must flow forward. Any drainage onto my lot was never an approved drainage or planned drainage. The cities plan calls for their neighborhood to drain forward to those road and into the city sewer from there.
Ours calls for the ours to run forward, into the runoff sewer also.
That's exactly how mine is setup, there is not.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:26 am to canyon
North LCLL was the option. I was too pissed with the entire organization to play and worked cutting lawns and substituted for a few Lake Charles American Press carriers when they went on vacation. I got $25.00 for cutting the grass at the CYO property on Kirby Street. It took 2 1/2 days with our little lawn mower. The newspaper boy delivery job netted about $16.00 a week.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:29 am to nes2010
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So the neighbor already knew he was in the wrong when he came at you first thing in the morning?
She felt she was right last time, so yes and no. City apparently had already told that she is responsible for draining her own lot according to the drainage plan of her neighborhood.
I'm still waiting to her back final ruling from city planning office and I will be getting something in writing.
I don't want them draining to our property but I also want to be a good neighbor. I also don't want the water just sitting at the edge of my property either. I'm building a pretty nice home and last thing I want is a swamp sitting a foot from my property line. But I also don't want to spend a shite ton fixing a problem he created and should have fixed a long time ago.
I told him when we talked I would do my best when we dressed the property to have everything flow correctly but I wasn't going to pay to have someone come back out just for this.
I would like to just out a small Swale along the property line but either he fiber optic line for the whole damn neighborhood running there, not going to be easy.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:36 am to lsu777
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This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:38 am to CharleyLake
Sorry for hijacking the thread y'all.
good memories. Had a bunch of buddies that were members of the CYO and yes that was a huge property. we also went to the Y on Kirby. One of my Uncles lived on Kirby Lane. we lived at the Y during the summer. I remember mowing yards for $2/per. But gas was cheap and I could drag the mower around behind my bike.
I worked at another uncle's boat shop, Finleys Sporting Goods. He was just downtown off Bilbo and Iris. Did trailer setups and helped around the shop.
fun times!
good memories. Had a bunch of buddies that were members of the CYO and yes that was a huge property. we also went to the Y on Kirby. One of my Uncles lived on Kirby Lane. we lived at the Y during the summer. I remember mowing yards for $2/per. But gas was cheap and I could drag the mower around behind my bike.
I worked at another uncle's boat shop, Finleys Sporting Goods. He was just downtown off Bilbo and Iris. Did trailer setups and helped around the shop.
fun times!
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:41 am to lsu777
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had a small swell dug through the lot to drain there, went right through the middle where my house is going to be.
This may be your saving grace. I hope someone has pictures showing that his lot didn’t naturally drain on to yours and it was a man made solution on property he didn’t own.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:44 am to canyon
Looks like lot 67. You can see the "swell" through it in a google earth shot from 2006. Overlay of "swell" through lot 67 from most recent google earth shot.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 10:46 am
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:44 am to ExtraGravy
The ones complaining aren't really friend switch my Mother in law. One next to them are and they are friends with the ones complaining.
I won't see them as they are in an adjoining neighborhood, not mine and I have to out up a fence along the adjoining property line per my hoa.
so far off it's not even funny.
I won't see them as they are in an adjoining neighborhood, not mine and I have to out up a fence along the adjoining property line per my hoa.
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At least you won't see each others' trailers over the "privacy fence."
so far off it's not even funny. Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:50 am to Coon
66&67, and it ran through line of 66&67 and to the north but that was put in after the land was cleared. If you look at the "current" image on Google Earth(not maps) you can see where the land was cleared and graded. No swale ditch on the site.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:52 am to Coon
It's neighbor with swimming pool not the one you have the redline to. Lot 67 was split. I took half and neighbor to the south took half.
Btw thank you so much. You just proved everything for me. There is not Swale coming from the neighbor complaining in any of the pictures. Gonna put together a time lapse when I get home showing everything.
Btw thank you so much. You just proved everything for me. There is not Swale coming from the neighbor complaining in any of the pictures. Gonna put together a time lapse when I get home showing everything.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 11:01 am
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:06 am to lsu777
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Dude, calm down if anything I would just put drainage in, nobody is bulldozing a house. The topographical maps were consulted by the city engineers and planning division when I had to submit the storm water run off plan. They approved my plan and are saying he has no claim that I impeded the natural drainage as the Swale was not part of any approved or drainage system and that the drainage for his neighborhood is supposed to flow towards the front.
My lawyer neighbor dealt with this also when he built and city ruled in his favor. He did add a couple drains to help the guy, which I would be more than happy to do except I have the main fiber optic cable running on our adjoining property line.
Dude, I didn't say you were going to bulldoze the house, but that is what they are going to demand of you. This issue is going to be part of your life for years to come. Enjoy.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:09 am to lsu777
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she is saying that the drainage plan for their neighborhood says they must flow forward. Any drainage onto my lot was never an approved drainage or planned drainage. The cities plan calls for their neighborhood to drain forward to those road and into the city sewer from there.
I know way more about that area's drainage than I should because I did a lot of design work for Walnut Grove a decade ago. So here's the issue with what the city is telling you: that development behind you is at least 25 years old. It was built on swampy, loamy soil. It is a soil type that will easily subside, especially if there is any disturbance to it that introduces oxygen. The original drainage plan might have said something about draining towards the street, but time can change that.
Drainage issues get real challenging when you're dealing subsidence. I can see an argument both in favor of you and against you.
All that said, when the survey for your development was done, it should have picked up the backyards of the neighbors draining towards y'all. It should have been caught by the city and drainage should have been designed to accommodate it.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:09 am to lsu777
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Like I said from the phone conversation she is saying that the drainage plan for their neighborhood says they must flow forward. Any drainage onto my lot was never an approved drainage or planned drainage. The cities plan calls for their neighborhood to drain forward to those road and into the city sewer from there.
Ours calls for the ours to run forward, into the runoff sewer also.
That's exactly how mine is setup, there is not.
This is the part I was missing. I didn't realize her neighborhood had a drainage plan filed. I was assuming it was just an old house that had been there for 50 years. Looking at the September 2017 imagery, there was a bit of a winding swale that seemed to have developed on its own almost along your northwest property corner.
Honestly, she probably just needs to to add fill to the northeast corner of her lawn to bring it level with the front.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:16 am to BottomlandBrew
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All that said, when the survey for your development was done, it should have picked up the backyards of the neighbors draining towards y'all. It should have been caught by the city and drainage should have been designed to accommodate i
This is also true. The engineer who did the drainage plan honestly fricked up.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:37 am to Jester
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The engineer who did the drainage plan honestly fricked up.
Like I said 17 pages ago, the developer is the one holding the bag here... (or at least his engineer)
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:44 am to Havoc
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ou’re fricked, subservient drainage estate motherfricker.
I hope that this thread can be kept going because THIS is a very real and very common legal issue in Louisiana.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:46 am to lsu777
If you’re in Louisiana, your neighbor definitely has drainage rights across your property that you cannot interfere with. Talk to a lawyer or engineer.
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