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Dr Fauci says positive test numbers not good indicator
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:23 pm
Of the scope of CoVid-19 but that total number of hospitalization from Covid-19 are much better indication of spread of virus. (I assume you extrapolate outwords by using these numbers. 1000 hospitalizations with 10% current Covid-19 hospitalization rate would mean 10,000 cases. ) Of course, Alabamas Governor just restricted that info from the public and news media last week. (Lol)
Are these numbers public anywhere?
Are these numbers public anywhere?
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:25 pm to TutHillTiger
If you found them, I would assume they are public.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:27 pm to TutHillTiger
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Of the scope of CoVid-19 but that total number of hospitalization from Covid-19 are much better indication of spread of virus.
Right, because the other positive cases which don't require hospitalization don't add to the spread of the disease?
I believe the number of positive cases is a better indication of the spread than just the number of hospitalizations.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:29 pm to TutHillTiger
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Of the scope of CoVid-19 but that total number of hospitalization from Covid-19 are much better indication of spread of virus.
I'm no scientist or numbers person but that makes no sense. SO many infected are not in the hospital ... to me the numbers are indeed a good indicator of the spread.
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:30 pm to TutHillTiger
I'd like to see the exact quote.
But if he's saying we should focus on the number hospitalized, available beds, ventilators. That makes sense.
But if he's saying we should focus on the number hospitalized, available beds, ventilators. That makes sense.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:31 pm to castorinho
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But if he's saying we should focus on the number hospitalized, available beds, ventilators. That makes sense.
This is definitely the most important data point when it come to getting back to normal.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:32 pm to TutHillTiger
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:33 pm to BlindTiger7
Nah bc still a vast number of people who have the virus are not getting tested. It seems they have a good handle on what % of the cases are serious enough to require hospitalization and if you are in the hospital for a respiratory illness then you will get tested. You can then back calculate the actual cases based on how many actual cases required hospitalization.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:33 pm to tiger91
the OPs framing makes it seem as if overall infected isn’t important. It is a part of a larger equation.
But the part that the government is almost worried about is how prepared we are for the potential number of hospitalizations and ICU patients.
But the part that the government is almost worried about is how prepared we are for the potential number of hospitalizations and ICU patients.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:33 pm to castorinho
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But if he's saying we should focus on the number hospitalized, available beds, ventilators. That makes sense.
It does if they are using honest data and not some data for political reasons.
Because the important numbers we need to figure out is the herd immunity point. We need to figure out when enough people have it that the spread is decreased to the point we can get back to normal life? If we are only using hospitalizations and they are using some BS number like hospitalizations are 10% of the cases when in reality hospitalizations are 2-5% of the current cases that's an enormous difference.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:36 pm to BlindTiger7
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believe the number of positive cases is a better indication of the spread than just the number of hospitalizations.
If we actually tested every single person yes. But the hospitalization rates indicate the severity of the problem.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:41 pm to TutHillTiger
.......and, the goal posts moved again.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:43 pm to TutHillTiger
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total number of hospitalization from Covid-19 are much better indication of spread of virus.
That sounds logical to me. We are doing a lot of testing finally, but we could still be doing more. I think it's safe to assume that there is a better chance of someone that needs hospital level care to seek it out, than to assume everyone with the possibility of being positive is getting tested. Total number of confirmed cases is always going to have a larger margin of error.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:44 pm to BlindTiger7
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I believe the number of positive cases is a better indication of the spread than just the number of hospitalizations.
I actually think the hospitilization is better indicator. I have a neighbor who we are pretty positive her and her family have it. Can’t smell. Can’t taste. Tested neg for the flu. But they told her they didn’t have enough kits and wouldn’t test them. There’s a lot of cases that aren’t confirmed cases.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:46 pm to pelicansfan123
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Of course I haven't watched much of the news at all recently and a lot of my info on coronavirus actually comes from this site.
According to this site, everyone is fear-mongering and many believe this is just a bad flu.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:49 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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believe the number of positive cases is a better indication of the spread than just the number of hospitalizations.
If we actually tested every single person yes. But the hospitalization rates indicate the severity of the problem.
Exactly. Positive cases are just a function of testing. And there are vast numbers of positives who are asymptomatic or who have mild symptoms. They are not getting tested. Hospitalizations tells you where you really are.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:49 pm to LSUtiger89
If those were the only numbers that would have been released, it would have been highly understated and not taken seriously by the public
I think that's what got us here in the first place
I think that's what got us here in the first place
Posted on 3/30/20 at 2:54 pm to ashy larry
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 3:08 pm to TutHillTiger
What's more important?
1) Number of people tested
2) Number of people infected
3) Number hospitalized
4) Number on vents
5) Number dead
I think 5 is the most important to me, considering most people will survive just fine and never even go to the hospital.
4 I think is a pretty good sign you won't make it, and 3 is a sign this is serious for all of us (if all the hospital beds are full of COVID-19, what happens when someone gets in an accident, or has a heart attack)?
1) Number of people tested
2) Number of people infected
3) Number hospitalized
4) Number on vents
5) Number dead
I think 5 is the most important to me, considering most people will survive just fine and never even go to the hospital.
4 I think is a pretty good sign you won't make it, and 3 is a sign this is serious for all of us (if all the hospital beds are full of COVID-19, what happens when someone gets in an accident, or has a heart attack)?
Posted on 3/30/20 at 3:13 pm to tiger91
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I'm no scientist or numbers person but that makes no sense. SO many infected are not in the hospital ... to me the numbers are indeed a good indicator of the spread.
It makes some sense. The fact is, we can't test everyone for the virus. As a result, there's very likely a lot of positive cases that are unknown. At some point later on, we can try to make estimates of this overall rate, but at this time it's not too likely we could have good estimates. That doesn't help us at this point. But if someone is sick enough to be hospitalized, that's more likely to be known, as opposed to the asymptomatic or mild cases that are unknown. Under reporting of this number is less likely. Thus, there is less uncertainty surrounding the number of hospitalized relative to the number of positive cases. Of course, though, you don't want to get too tied up with a single number, it's best to look at everything.
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