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re: Doubt this has happened to a TDer before.

Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:26 pm to
I'm sure they'll reach out if they need something medical related. Until then just leave them alone.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42555 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:26 pm to
OP should prepare for divorce or a completely different marriage. Things will be going downhill quickly
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45857 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Hook Em Horns
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Hubba bubba..if you would really like to talk about this I'll give you my email. I'm adopted. I can feel your heartache here. I'm 34 now. I've never met my real dad. But he's never reached out to me and it's all I've ever wanted. So if you would like to talk I'd be more than happy.
Wow. I appreciate that. I don't feel heartache for the loss of her son. I feel heartache for the loss of her dream to met him and tell him about why she chose his parents over twenty-five other sets of potential parents that wanted to adopt him. She fell in love with his adopted parents and shared a gift from God with them. It broke her heart to find out about his death like that. I grieve for her sense of loss, and hugged my kids a little tighter this morning before we went to church. I'll reach out and let you know. I hope you find peace with your situation.
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27972 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:37 pm to
Those grandkids are devastated by the loss of dad

To throw in "Hi, I'm grandma. Sorry but I didn't want your dad", isn't going to help soothe things anytime soon
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136852 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:38 pm to
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feel heartache for the loss of her dream to met him and tell him about why she chose his parents over twenty-five other sets of potential parents that wanted to adopt him


What your wife has is called regret. She had 2 decades to fulfill that wish, but she did not. Only your wife can fully explain those reasons.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:41 pm to
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islandtiger


Look man, I'm glad you adopted a child. I think it should be easier to do and done more because it would solve a lot of our society's shitty parent problem, bit you are just speculating on everyone's feelings. Multiple people in this thread and the people in the OPs post.

I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that I wouldn't give one single shite about my birth parents. Maybe I'm just a heartless bastard, but that's how I feel. They decided to give me up, which is fine life is complicated and like I said I think it's the right move a lot of times, but the people that raise you are your parents. They're the only set of people that sacrifice their wishes for you.
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131480 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 12:48 pm to
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This could have potential to save a life in her lineage.


The fact you are willing to share cord blood with the child your wife gave up for adoption is admirable. (And grand children)

But it’s also a fact that the adoptive wishes should be respected.

Your wife isn’t owed anything from the adoptive family.

Perhaps the adoption agency has someone on staff experienced in dealing with the emotions your wife must be experiencing?
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28917 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:14 pm to
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That sucks but it is selfish of your wife to feel anger towards adoptive parents. This notion that biological parents have a right to a child’s life after all the hard work, is bullshite. It sucks that your wife made some bad decisions and now feels anger towards people who provided her child a life she never could have...... the man’s real parents had to lay him to rest and will continue providing a stable life for his wife and children. Last thing they need is you and your wife creating more confusion.


Completely agree. OP's wife is out of line and selfish in not letting this issue lie. She has her own family to focus on and if she's truly having issues with what has transpired, she needs therapy.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
4920 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:17 pm to
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I think she needs to let sleeping dogs lie still. Sure, it hurts to know a child you gave birth to has died, but maybe she needs to think on it a while before reacting


This...I feel for the adoptive parents and they were the ones who provided for this young man most of his life. I would honor their wishes and that of the wife who lost her husband above any other!
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20533 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:21 pm to
The real truth is you simply can't blame the adoptive parents. Good reasons or bad, it was their legal choice to do what they wanted. The OP's wife gave up the choice when she chose to give up the son. Op, your wife just needs to live with that and seek counseling if she needs help

If the guy was over 30, even if the parent's didn't want him to meet the birth mom he could have very easily on his own. He had 10+ years where he could have easily done that if he truly wanted to.

The hard reality is that its safe to say the son most likely did not want to meet his real mom. That has nothing to do with the OP's wife being a good or bad person, he may have simply been content with his life and loved his adoptive parents greatly. Which frankly is all you could want from a parent that gave a kid up.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36744 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:31 pm to
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She didn't want to be a mom to that kid. That's her choice.


That's rather harsh -- no ones knows that except the birth mother.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30164 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:35 pm to
First - WOW. Helluva situation there. I hope that your wife can make peace with her decisions because I don't think anything she's done so far has been out of line. I'm a firm believer that "no time spent trying to benefit someone else is wasted time" and perhaps she can come to see her efforts in this light.

Second - I know this is many pages late, but there have been a couple replies in this thread that best encapsulate my thoughts on this matter...

quote:

Maybe after some time has passed for that poor family to grieve their loss your wife could send the adoptive parents a family tree with a history of medical information for family members (who has cancer, who has diabetes, who died and what of, etc). That way that medical history could be passed on to the grandchildren at an appropriate time.

A medical history can be important for many things. Especially if those grandchildren in the future have to do genetic counseling before they have children (the counselor actually sits with you and does a family tree going over what medical conditions they had, when they died, etc, etc).

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You could look at donating some money to one of those college savings accounts for the kids.

An anonymous donation as the children come of college age was the first thing that popped into my mind after reading the OP.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36744 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

The hard reality is that its safe to say the son most likely did not want to meet his real mom.


Skimmed through but is it known if the now deceased son knew he was adopted??
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 3:00 pm to
Sorry but I have a similar situation except it was with my father. About a week or so after he died a girl about my age called asking me questions about my dad. (Before internet) She said her father or stepfather had recently died and her mother gave her some info she was following up on. Like is this the George Miller that used to live in oxford, Miss, etc. (This happened a lot as my father had lived all over usually with people saying they were old friend etc and wanting to send something, etc)

I confirmed All her information I could literally hear the excitement build in her voice. She then revealed she would like to meet me and my father etc. I had to tell her than wasn’t possible as my father had died of massive heart attack weeks ago ( He was 39)

She starting almost immediately crying and apologize for bothering me and hung up.

A buddy of mine who had answered the phone initially said I think she is your stepsister. I have no doubt that I have a stepsister somewhere but I have never heard from her ago. I assume she told her that my father was her real Dad or something after her other father or father figure died.

I have never heard from her again and it has been over 30 years ago. She knows who I am but I know nothing about her. I even think she was at college same time as she was at Ole Miss as I think she told me she was going to be a Freshman or was a Freshman that Fall. I was sophomore.

I assume if she wanted to meet she could have
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45857 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

yurintroubl
If I could cull out some of the a-hole responses in this thread, I'd let my wife read it. I think it could be cathartic to read some of the sympathetic and reasoned responses... on both sides of the issues involved.

Her best friend is with her right now. They've taken her three kids (all three adopted) and my son (who's best friend is one of her adopted sons) to an indoor trampoline park. My wife had never revealed her past, but she called her friend this afternoon, and after talking, she rushed over to comfort my wife. It will help her to talk to someone who holds the perspective of adoptive parent.

Your response (and others like it) are welcome. Whatever others might think, and in spite of my sometimes colorful commentary here, there's not a single post I've ever written here on TD that is critical of my wife. She is the sweetest, kindest and most unselfish person in my entire extended family. She tithes, volunteers and does very little that is just for herself. I know the entire story why she gave up her child, and it had to do with the selfishness of her parents, which I won't get into. They were wrong and regret it.

I think we'll wait, reach out to the adoptive parents, and offer family medical history as well as offer to establish a trust fund for each of the three grandchildren for college. And visiting the graveside would probably help bring closure. There's really no reason for anything else.

Thanks to everyone for their kind responses. For those whose own bitterness got in the way of emphatic sympathy, all I can say is
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136852 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

could cull out some of the a-hole responses in this thread, I'd let my wife read it.
copy and paste those responses into a word document or an email
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111151 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 4:32 pm to
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You know, for most people, that may be the right way to look at it, and may still be right here, but she waited until he was a grown man to even consider making contact. His adoptive parents stood in the way, even though he should have been able to make his own decision.

There are so many things in play that you guys aren't privy to though.

Maybe they told him, maybe they've spoke with him extensively about it and he didn't want to know/meet his parents and the parents were just following through with his wishes.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21810 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 4:37 pm to
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What your wife has is called regret. She had 2 decades to fulfill that wish, but she did not. Only your wife can fully explain those reasons.


20 bucks says most of the posters here would be super upset if she was trying to get in contact with her son when he was 5, crying "Wait until he's an adult!".

You can't win with some people.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21810 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 4:40 pm to
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Maybe the wife came across as unhinged or vindictive or maybe this isn't even close to what happened.



I'm not sure how they (the adopted parents) could have come to this conclusion when they didn't even open the letter the biological mother sent to them.

quote:

If you are giving your wife unprescribed sedatives, maybe your own house isn't in order.


You got me and the OP mixed up.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42555 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 4:59 pm to
You sound upset people disagree with you and your wife's opinion
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