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Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:20 am to fareplay
The pentagon purchases trash cans from Boeing priced at $52,000. Or $250 on Amazon
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:25 am to fareplay
Dumping it into their own bank accounts or into foreign countries, like Ukraine, to appease the warmongers in the TD Ukraine war thread.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:25 am to jclem11
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Library card fees is an odd one -- society as a whole benefits from libraries but "conservatives" hate education so this makes sense in that context I suppose.
You sound like the type of person that supports "This Book Is Gay" being in school libraries.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:35 am to fareplay
Border security
Edit: oops, I meant security for people crossing the border illegally.
Edit: oops, I meant security for people crossing the border illegally.
This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 8:36 am
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:43 am to jclem11
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So what is your plan to lessen the burden the poor
What is YOUR plan to lessen the burden of the poor?
You seem really bothered by their burden. It must keep you up countless nights knowing that we, as a country, through taxation, have been fighting a war on poverty for over 100 years and poverty rates have not gone down at all. In fact, they have only risen.
Yet you sit here and berate those who make small mentions of ways to help the majority of people (be they right or wrong in their assumptions), when it is obvious that the way we are doing things today are not helping anyone at all.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:59 am to Skervix
53% of 2023 federal expenditures went some form of wealth transfer - Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, other health programs and direct transfers.
76% of all federal tax payments are made by the top 20% of income earners while the bottom 50% pay a negative federal tax rate.
So essentially one half of the country pays all of the taxes. Half of those tax outlays are transferred to the bottom of the country in the form of direct payments while the other half fund all of the services and corruption of the government.
This is why the ramblings of the “pay their fair share” crowd should be dismissed without consideration.
76% of all federal tax payments are made by the top 20% of income earners while the bottom 50% pay a negative federal tax rate.
So essentially one half of the country pays all of the taxes. Half of those tax outlays are transferred to the bottom of the country in the form of direct payments while the other half fund all of the services and corruption of the government.
This is why the ramblings of the “pay their fair share” crowd should be dismissed without consideration.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:00 am to fareplay
The virtuous cycle.
Free food to become morbidly obese.
Free insulin once you’ve become morbidly obese.
Free weight loss drugs to lose the weight.
Mike Bertaut of Blue Cross has said repeatedly that most of our healthcare premiums go straight to issues related to obesity.
Louisiana spends more on healthcare for the obese than anything else. More than law enforcement. More than education.
Free food to become morbidly obese.
Free insulin once you’ve become morbidly obese.
Free weight loss drugs to lose the weight.
Mike Bertaut of Blue Cross has said repeatedly that most of our healthcare premiums go straight to issues related to obesity.
Louisiana spends more on healthcare for the obese than anything else. More than law enforcement. More than education.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:16 am to BrianFantana
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You sound like the type of person that supports "This Book Is Gay" being in school libraries.
you sound like a muh freeze peach conservative who supports banning speech you don't like or agree with. lmao.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:37 am to rundmcrun
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I may be wrong but I think our single biggest expenditure is the interest on our debt.
It's not. Not yet. But it's getting there.
Social Security
Medicare/Medicaid
Defense Spendng
Interest on the national debt.
The rest is peanuts by comparison.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:38 am to Hou_Lawyer
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Simple fix- IQ test to vote. Only property owners can vote on any tax proposals.
I don't know how you'd calculate it...but if you could figure out a "net cash flow" from the government to the individual. If you take more in cash/benefits than you pay in taxes, you don't vote.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:43 am to fareplay
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What are they doing with all that money they took from me?
Joe sends it to Ukraine
Ukraine sends it back to our defense contractors who Joe awarded contracts to.
Defense contractors send a % to Joe.
Joe loves prolonged war
Posted on 2/14/24 at 9:46 am to UtahCajun
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What is YOUR plan to lessen the burden of the poor?
For starters, certain segments of lower class society are just bad decision makers so no amount of assistance via transfer payments will help them achieve more. At best, we can hope to placate them by making them comfortable so they do not riot and disrupt the peace.
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You seem really bothered by their burden. It must keep you up countless nights knowing that we, as a country, through taxation, have been fighting a war on poverty for over 100 years and poverty rates have not gone down at all. In fact, they have only risen.
War on poverty, war on drugs, "war" on anything is cringe and gay and never helps anything. I won't argue that point as I agree.
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Yet you sit here and berate those who make small mentions of ways to help the majority of people (be they right or wrong in their assumptions),
Because I am factually correct that consumption-based taxes such as a VAT or a flat tax is by definition regressive. These proposals are typically bundled with eliminating all entitlements which is just further fricking over poor people.
That is my main point. And I just like to play devil's advocate to argue on the internet.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:01 am to fareplay
Nothing, they are borrowing 2x as much as they tax. Stealing it from your kids and grandkids. 
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:15 am to fareplay
The Uniparty impeached Trump when he told everyone what they were doing with a good chunk of it.
Progressives and moderates cheered on the impeachment, and are now hungry for more war.
It is easy to root for these things when the majority of the people you vote with pay nothing.
Progressives and moderates cheered on the impeachment, and are now hungry for more war.
It is easy to root for these things when the majority of the people you vote with pay nothing.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:31 am to jclem11
So how much more of my money do you need?
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:37 am to Grievous Angel
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Social Security
Yet a candidate will get flogged if he/she hints at supporting the idea of raising the age to collect benefits from 65 to 67.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:40 am to jclem11
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At best, we can hope to placate them by making them comfortable so they do not riot and disrupt the peace.
frick that. Paying people not to riot is asinine. Punishing them appropriately when they do riot is the answer. There should have been firing squads lined up in front of all of the looters in 2020.
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For starters, certain segments of lower class society are just bad decision makers so no amount of assistance via transfer payments will help them achieve more.
It should not be the burden of middle class taxpayers to take care of these people from cradle to grave because they're too low IQ to understand impulse control. The best solution: If you don't work, you starve. Entitlement programs for Shaniqua and her 8 kids with 8 different baby daddies need to be done away with permanently. Rewarding bad decision making is how to destroy a society.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:55 am to fareplay
Didn’t see a breakdown posted so I figured this image from Wikipedia might help (not sure about accuracy)
Looks like education is the second biggest expenditure…I’m guessing most of that is Title I funding? Even so that’s a ton of money right there.
Total in 2022 was like $6 Trillion, more than 20% of GDP. Every $100 we made, FedGov spent $20 for us.
This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 10:59 am
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:57 am to Twincam
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Easy, Ukraine.
funding the illegals coming through the southern border as well.
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