re: Doing taxes really makes you think

Just remember, during the Lehman and AIG crisis, 50 billion to bailout AIG was considered clown money (seriously it was shot down as an idea). And that was a company with skin in the game for America. Now? 100 billion for Ukraine is considered the most important bill the Senate could ever vote on with ZERO actual return for us as a country. Zero accountability. Zero way to see how the money is being spent.


What a country.

I got a buddy with United Fruit. Get ya started. Start with strawberries, you might work your way up to these goddamn bananas.

Social programs that you most likely aren't even eligible for if you actually pay taxes. Sure would be nice if as a taxpayer I could actually get the healthcare and food stamps that my hard earned income contributes to. And social security probably won't be there by the time I'm eligible to get it.

It's theft, and the worst part is the thieves can throw you in jail if you don't let them steal from you. Our founding fathers fought a war over less than what we're taxed now

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And a flat tax, or even better a consumption tax.

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The most regressive form of taxation. You will punish the working poor and give a huge break to the wealthy with this plan.

How will you adjust your plan for this inequality in treatment between rich and poor?

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Get rid of all the bullshite, get rid of all the deductions with exception to retirement savings and medical bills...and pay your small percentage

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This is the first step to a new and ever-expanding tax code. lmao. Just this one little exemption or deduction and you are opening Pandora's box.

Are you a libertarian? Let's abolish government! ...and then slowly recreate those same systems and institutions.

It's absurd that we're the only developed country I'm aware of where the government knows what you owe in taxes, but you have to do the math yourself before they'll tell you if your were right

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most of it goes to the military industrial complex and to keep the IRS running.

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to keep the IRS running.

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$11.9 billion out of $4.1 trillion for FY2021 is hardly most.

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In FY 2021, the IRS collected about $4.1 trillion on a budget of about $11.9 billion (excluding one-time supplemental funding the agency received to administer COVID-19-related stimulus programs).14 That translates to an average ROI of about 345:1. It is economically irrational to underfund the IRS. If a company’s accounts receivable department could generate an ROI of 345:1 and the chief executive officer (CEO) failed to provide enough funding for it to do so, the CEO would be fired. Yet in general, the federal budget rules exclusively take into account outlays and ignore the revenue those outlays generate. The program integrity allocation adjustment mechanism gives Congress the ability to provide some funding above the spending caps, but because it historically has been used solely to fund enforcement initiatives, it can lead to imbalances in the IRS’s operations.

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LINK - IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service

Also, you do realize the IRS is the accounts receivable department for the government.

You are malding about the national debt and want to eliminate the agency responsible for enforcing the tax laws and collecting the legally owed taxes.

Galaxy brained policy wonk level stuff here, Mr. Loup.

In 2019, we spent $4.6T, the same as our current revenue.



Sadly, if we could just ONLY increase spending by 1% a year instead of the automatic GAO built in 8% and freeze government non military hiring for a few years, we could grow or wsy out of this mess.

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What are they doing with all that money they took from me?

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It does make me wonder why I'm giving away all of this money to the government, when I don't even make that much myself. Working my butt off to make a living and I'm still fearing my meeting with the tax person later this week because I might have to give even more to the government for no good reason.

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The most regressive form of taxation. You will punish the working poor and give a huge break to the wealthy with this plan. How will you adjust your plan for this inequality in treatment between rich and poor?

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You don’t. That’s the beauty of it. Everybody treated the same. Isn’t that the goal?

A lot of it is wasted on military spending