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re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:26 pm to Breadcrumbs
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:26 pm to Breadcrumbs
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but if it is a hope for change situation and not a good quantifiable plan, I'm not convinced yet.
This is exactly what it is and its evident by all the look at Central and Zachary shite that has been spewed on here since 2013.
However, none of them seemed to realize that Central and Zachary were long established community schools that were good schools before they broke away from EBR.
Has anyone ever confused Woodlawn with a good school?
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:31 pm to nicholastiger
Who gives a frick what ignorant kids want? Grow a pair bitch
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:41 pm to armytiger96
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Of course they will. Dr. Loren Scott published a study on this when the idea of St George came to fruition. Essentially he said the only thing that will come out of the creation of St George is higher taxes for everyone due to duplication of services and legacy costs.
Do you have a link to this study? And are you sure the study wasn’t done by Richardson?
Posted on 5/6/26 at 11:05 pm to dallastigers
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Do you have a link to this study? And are you sure the study wasn’t done by Richardson?
No, I googled it and couldn't find it. It may have been Richardson's study. I couldn't find a link to Richardson's study either. I'll update my post.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 11:18 pm to Breadcrumbs
I am asking for your proof that it won’t work besides your fear.
You appear to be scared of change and able to actually look up any information yourself. I don’t live in BR area or Louisiana, and I know have read more on this than you.
You keep talking about tax increases for both the city and any future school district without proving they happening outside of your negative & scared outlook on change. That would be fine if you already lived in a quality school district that raised property values or lived next to a quality capital city that raised nearby property values and was tough on crime and corruption or had a quality parish government that wasn’t a puppet for the earlier mentioned crappy capital city next door to you. You have none of these.
Why is tax always increase automatic with you?
StG isnt removed from EBRP at all. If you meant the EBR school district every other district shares a border with it. You are just spouting off another negative you read from army without understanding it or thinking for yourself.
The proposed district has been more negatively impacted by EBRSS’s horrible leadership and dumbing things down than Central or Zachary were. It is also worse off than when SE BR district was pushed, but at a minimum a StG district cuts itself off from a still failing district that has also been not spending enough of collected tax revenue in StG on schools in StG for over a decade. Local control, increasing standards, and being color blind in making policy for students automatically puts it in a better place for the future than it currently is.
You are assuming things can’t get worse, but you must have not been paying attention to the past 10 years and especially since the summer of love while BR leaders did everything they could to break the back of StG’s spirit to keep milking it for BR. The school district is BR’s last method to milk StG with. You are gambling that you can get out before it turns even worse. Thats the experiment you keep mentioning.
You appear to be scared of change and able to actually look up any information yourself. I don’t live in BR area or Louisiana, and I know have read more on this than you.
You keep talking about tax increases for both the city and any future school district without proving they happening outside of your negative & scared outlook on change. That would be fine if you already lived in a quality school district that raised property values or lived next to a quality capital city that raised nearby property values and was tough on crime and corruption or had a quality parish government that wasn’t a puppet for the earlier mentioned crappy capital city next door to you. You have none of these.
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StG isn't really geographically far enough removed from EBRP to justify an unquantifiable amount of tax increase to vote for this experiment.
Why is tax always increase automatic with you?
StG isnt removed from EBRP at all. If you meant the EBR school district every other district shares a border with it. You are just spouting off another negative you read from army without understanding it or thinking for yourself.
The proposed district has been more negatively impacted by EBRSS’s horrible leadership and dumbing things down than Central or Zachary were. It is also worse off than when SE BR district was pushed, but at a minimum a StG district cuts itself off from a still failing district that has also been not spending enough of collected tax revenue in StG on schools in StG for over a decade. Local control, increasing standards, and being color blind in making policy for students automatically puts it in a better place for the future than it currently is.
You are assuming things can’t get worse, but you must have not been paying attention to the past 10 years and especially since the summer of love while BR leaders did everything they could to break the back of StG’s spirit to keep milking it for BR. The school district is BR’s last method to milk StG with. You are gambling that you can get out before it turns even worse. Thats the experiment you keep mentioning.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:13 am to LSURussian
So this is us, two kids in EBRSS Gifted Program living in StG. We will lose Gifted if StG ISD gets approved. I am still voting for StG ISD because long term, I want neighborhood schools to return. I grew up (not in BTR) where home values were directly related to school system. Maybe Im a boomer.
HOWEVER, StG leadership has been completely fumbled this. Its almost as if they were so occupied with new found city they forgot why the city had backing to begin with.
As far as I know, there has been zero school system plan from StG. Someone please prove me wrong. There are a handful of elementary but two middle, Jefferson Terrace and Woodlawn Middle. Only one high school, Woodlawn High. I think in there was property slated for a school that was handed over to StG, down on Seigen. What is the short term plan? What is 3yr plan? 5yr plan? Long term?
From what I can tell, if StG gets ISD, Woodlawn High overnight becomes the most well funded public high school in the state.
Getting back to the vote. Im dumbfounded with StG leadership strategy. There are many of our classmate parents that are basically seeing this as a blind-faith vote. No plan, just vote and TRUST us. There is a lot of dissappointment in the community when there has been 10+ years to plan and campaign for this moment.
HOWEVER, StG leadership has been completely fumbled this. Its almost as if they were so occupied with new found city they forgot why the city had backing to begin with.
As far as I know, there has been zero school system plan from StG. Someone please prove me wrong. There are a handful of elementary but two middle, Jefferson Terrace and Woodlawn Middle. Only one high school, Woodlawn High. I think in there was property slated for a school that was handed over to StG, down on Seigen. What is the short term plan? What is 3yr plan? 5yr plan? Long term?
From what I can tell, if StG gets ISD, Woodlawn High overnight becomes the most well funded public high school in the state.
Getting back to the vote. Im dumbfounded with StG leadership strategy. There are many of our classmate parents that are basically seeing this as a blind-faith vote. No plan, just vote and TRUST us. There is a lot of dissappointment in the community when there has been 10+ years to plan and campaign for this moment.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:14 am to dallastigers
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but at a minimum a StG district cuts itself off from a still failing district that has also been not spending enough of collected tax revenue in StG on schools in StG for over a decade.
This is a load of BS. In the last 30 years they have added a new high school, middle school, and elementary school in that area. Have they built, not renovated or rebuilt, built any new schools anywhere else the parish?
When is the last time you saw a news article about over crowding in EBR Parish schools? Katrina?
Everyone on this board wants to play victim and claim BR hasn't invested in that area, but they put their head in the sand and ignore the fact that the vast majority of new infrastructure investment in the parish over the past 40 years has been in SE BR.
Before 1989, Coursey Blvd stopped at Stumberg Ln and Oneal Lane stopped at Harrell's Ferry.
In 1992, Seigen Lane, Bluebonnet, Jones Creek, Antioch, Tiger Bend, Jefferson Hwy, Harrells Ferry, O'neal Lane, Highland Road, Perkins Road, etc were all two lane country roads.
Since then all of the new hospitals, malls, major shopping centers (except for Town Center), interstate improvements, etc, have been built to support SE Baton Rouge.
The victim mentality of the modern day St Georgian is mind boggling to say the least.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 12:47 am
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:32 am to AutoYes_Clown
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I am still voting for StG ISD because long term, I want neighborhood schools to return.
Have you looked at attendance zone for Woodlawn lately. It's basically the same map as St George. If you want neighborhood schools then send your kids to the already existing neighborhood school.
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HOWEVER, StG leadership has been completely fumbled this. Its almost as if they were so occupied with new found city they forgot why the city had backing to begin with.
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There is a lot of dissappointment in the community when there has been 10+ years to plan and campaign for this moment.
Why is this a surprise to anyone? Central, Zachary, Baker, were long standing communities before they formed an independent school district. Before 2013 no one in SE Baton Rouge said they lived in St George.
Hell the original proposed school district was called SEBR school district, and the guy that came up with the idea was a state rep from Central. He wasn't committed to seeing this through.
Why did anyone think this would be anything other than the proverbial "dog catching the bumper?"
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 12:50 am
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:07 am to dallastigers
You can call it fear, negativity or a scared outlook. I don’t deny. You may be more versed or more read in the politics and revenue/costs of St.G than I am even though you don’t live here.
I pay $25,000 per child in private school tuition to live in St.G now. I presume that my closest neighbors are as concentrated in wealth as we are. I presume most of us prefer our taxes to go towards the experiment of St.G school system instead of EBRPSS for the hope of a better future. Why not? What can be worse than status quo?
I’m just saying I think taxes will increase in St.G. If so, my kids will be out of private school and I have a cost/benefit choice to move or not if taxes increase. Obviously, if we paid this much in tuition, we can afford our taxes and potential tax increases and we can decide whether we want to pay that for the utopia that is St. George. Personally I feel like I’m qualified to make that decision about whether a St. George independent school district is going to make my gated community quality of life a lot better in 10 years when the benefits materialize hopefully. No one‘s really convinced me though.
I pay $25,000 per child in private school tuition to live in St.G now. I presume that my closest neighbors are as concentrated in wealth as we are. I presume most of us prefer our taxes to go towards the experiment of St.G school system instead of EBRPSS for the hope of a better future. Why not? What can be worse than status quo?
I’m just saying I think taxes will increase in St.G. If so, my kids will be out of private school and I have a cost/benefit choice to move or not if taxes increase. Obviously, if we paid this much in tuition, we can afford our taxes and potential tax increases and we can decide whether we want to pay that for the utopia that is St. George. Personally I feel like I’m qualified to make that decision about whether a St. George independent school district is going to make my gated community quality of life a lot better in 10 years when the benefits materialize hopefully. No one‘s really convinced me though.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:52 am to dallastigers
Nothing in Subsection M of this Section shall prohibit the East Baton Rouge Parish School System or the St. George Community School System from creating enrollment preferences that may prioritize qualified students who reside within the district boundaries of its school system.
They have to “allow” them but can give priority to students within the district. Appropriately so.
They have to “allow” them but can give priority to students within the district. Appropriately so.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:19 am to AutoYes_Clown
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As far as I know, there has been zero school system plan from StG.
I think this has been addressed several times now but legally they can’t have a plan until a board is in place. They can’t have a board in place until the district is created. Central & Zachary followed the same timeline.
But I do agree, STG has done an awful job at pushing this and dispelling rumors.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:20 am to armytiger96
quote:(I voted no as I live in BR and wasn't going to vote against my own personal interests.
Have they built, not renovated or rebuilt, built any new schools anywhere else the parish?
To answer the question:
Yes. Liberty (Lee) High has a "new" campus (2016). Mckinley High is being rebuilt now, and BR School for Performing Arts was renovated a couple of years ago. These are the ones off the top of my head based on the revolving door or schools that have been temporarily located at the old Kenilworth Middle School campus. Mayfair is next on the list.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:21 am to armytiger96
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If you want neighborhood schools then send your kids to the already existing neighborhood school
Well this is a large part of the why the southern portion of the parish wanted their own district. The complete lack of investment in their area while funding 25% of the EBRPSS budget over the last 3 decades is inexcusable. They couldn’t build ONE high school in that area in the last 30 years?!
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:42 am to Dingeaux
As a parent you sent his oldest two through the BR magnet school system, while the academic education was great, the liberal brainwashing (especially at BRMHS) outweighed the benefit.
My youngest is going private school route, and a St. George school district won’t change that. However, I will be voting “yes” on the school district amendment to give those you can’t send their kids through private schools a chance to take back control of their kids future.
My youngest is going private school route, and a St. George school district won’t change that. However, I will be voting “yes” on the school district amendment to give those you can’t send their kids through private schools a chance to take back control of their kids future.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:58 am to SoggyCerealClub
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They couldn’t build ONE high school in that area in the last 30 years?!
Did you miss the part where they rebuilt a much bigger and better Woodlawn High School, and it wasn't full. So you want them to build empty high schools just to show you they investing in the area. Yeah big government!
Posted on 5/7/26 at 7:03 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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Liberty (Lee) High has a "new" campus (2016). Mckinley High is being rebuilt now, and BR School for Performing Arts was renovated a couple of years ago.
These are all rebuilts. I guess reading comprehension is a problem for you. I specifically asked NEW SCHOOLS, not rebuilds.
So they rebuilt Woodlawn, built a BRAND NEW elementary and middle school in your area BEFORE rebuilding the schools you mentioned in BR proper and you still want to bitch that they didn't invest in your area.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 7:15 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 7:29 am
Posted on 5/7/26 at 7:19 am to dallastigers
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You keep talking about tax increases for both the city and any future school district without proving they happening outside of your negative & scared outlook on change.
1. Senator Edmonds, who coauthored the StG School bill last year states in his fiscal note, "the school system may have to increase revenues through additional taxes to meet expenditure needs in the future." Central and Zachary have raised taxes (and last year rejected an additional tax raise), so yes, independent school districts increase taxes.
You can read the other effects from Edmonds' fiscal note here:LINK
2. Mayor Yates has promised a tax cut if the school district passes.
LINK
St. George leadership can't keep their message straight.
People can dismiss my NO vote for whatever reason they want to. People can vote YES for any reason as well. But for any voter, please make an informed decision and don't rely on bad data or buzzy one-liners. This is too big of a change to rush it and not take the time to get it right from day one.
St. George deserves to have this vote and has every legal right to have a school district. But leadership needs to do a little bit more leg work than just "trust us." They want our tax money but don't even have accurate numbers for any kind of school district budget. I would think for 15 years and a whole lot of promises of fiscal responsibility they would do better.
(And this is important to state... it is not a either/or... a NO vote is also not an affirmation that EBR is doing a great job. They have many issues that I also give them hell about because it affects my kid as well. But two school districts right now is not good for either school district).
Posted on 5/7/26 at 7:59 am to Breadcrumbs
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are you thinking that the St. George Schools are going to be better than private schools overnight?
No I'm not. Who said anything about private schools?
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It's not like Woodlawn will instantly become as good as Dutchtown and the new Prairieville HS enough to cause parents to quit going to SJA, St. Michaels, Episcopal, Parkview and Dunham. Seriously, how long before the level of confidence is raised to that level?
I think it will happen quicker than you think. Look at Central and Zachary as examples. They literally did the same exact thing and within a few years of leaving the EBRPSS they became great schools. Now, Zachary and to a lesser degree Central, have backslid somewhat but they are still vastly superior academically to EBR (public) schools.
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