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re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?

Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:57 pm to
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also don't think the leaders of St. George had a clue as to how much it will cost to run a city without raising taxes a ton let alone an independent school district...


Let me clue you in. EBRSS will lose 60 million a year if it passes. That’s why they don’t want it to pass.

St George can easily run their own school system.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10002 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:58 pm to
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are you thinking that the St. George Schools are going to be better than private schools overnight?


Every long trip starts with the first step.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2560 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:20 pm to
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That's fair, but I'm willing to bet St George schools will be better than BR magnet schools inside of a decade.


I'll take that bet.
Posted by Breadcrumbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
3042 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:30 pm to
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Let me clue you in. EBRSS will lose 60 million a year if it passes. That’s why they don’t want it to pass.


where can I find quantifiable proof to back up your assertion? Where is this verifiable?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10609 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:32 pm to
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I also don't think the leaders of St. George had a clue as to how much it will cost to run a city without raising taxes a ton

Has StG had to raise taxes, have a budget shortage, or not done anything that was done by local govt while StG area was unincorporated?

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42640 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:33 pm to

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I live in St. George and won't benefit from improved schools as my child will graduate from private school in 4 years. I

My kids graduated over twenty years ago, but I believe everyone in the community benefits from a good school system.

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I also don't think the leaders of St. George had a clue as to how much it will cost to run a city without raising taxes a ton let alone an independent school district....the pensions, the school buildings, etc. I'm not really into paying for that when I won't benefit

You do understand that you are paying taxes now. A lot of taxes that go into a failing school system. You pay those taxes and send your kids to a private school because you know the system is failing.

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Convince me that we really need a set of charter schools run by St.G.

Rather a set of charter schools run by EBR like we have now?

Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2560 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:33 pm to
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After all, that’s what everyone else in BR has had to do for decades in order to ensure their kids got a decent education. Either that or pony up private school tuition.


WTF are you talking about. Who in EBR had to move from the surrounding areas to within the city limits to go to a good school? What good school in BR are you suggesting people wanted to attend?

Do you think kids living outside of the BR city limits couldn't go to BRHS a decade ago? No one who grew up in SE Baton Rouge was shipped to a shitty failing school. They either went to Lee, Woodlawn, Tara, or were in the magnet programs and went to BRHS.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 9:34 pm
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2560 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:43 pm to
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I also don't think the leaders of St. George had a clue as to how much it will cost to run a city without raising taxes a ton let alone an independent school district....the pensions, the school buildings, etc. I'm not really into paying for that when I won't benefit with the exception of a "safer' city than EBRP because of segregation, but do I trust that the St.G leaders can provide that for me? I'm skeptical.


I'm shocked to hear this.
Posted by Breadcrumbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
3042 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:46 pm to
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You do understand that you are paying taxes now. A lot of taxes that go into a failing school system. You pay those taxes and send your kids to a private school because you know the system is failing.

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Convince me that we really need a set of charter schools run by St.G.

Rather a set of charter schools run by EBR like we have now?


I do understand what I'm paying in taxes now and for no benefit because of the school tuition I pay, but the amount of taxes it will take to sustain St.G will understandably be greater than what I'm paying now. The question is do I want to pay higher taxes for a school system for which I do not benefit? I mean I guess my safety will be better with better schools, but how much more do I want to pay for that over what I have now if I don't have kids going to school? it is for me to decide if I want to move after my kid graduates to a district with taxes which won't be so high. I do not have confidence that the St.G leadership knows exactly how much it will cost to improve it's schools and my surroundings. I'm thinking taxes will greatly increase.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19155 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:46 pm to
Haha
They have 3 former school board presidents volunteering to help get this through.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2560 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:53 pm to
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I'm thinking taxes will greatly increase.


Of course they will. An LSU professor published a study on this when the idea of St George came to fruition. Essentially he said the only thing that will come out of the creation of St George is higher taxes for everyone due to duplication of services and legacy costs.


This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 11:07 pm
Posted by Breadcrumbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
3042 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:54 pm to
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Haha
They have 3 former school board presidents volunteering to help get this through.


haha. former school board presidents from where? why should i care? why should I have confidence in their leadership? I'm just telling you that people from all over the state are asking me if they should vote for this amendment. Saying haha doesn't really explain what's guaranteed other than higher taxes for St.G residents and better schools in about 10 years or so.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12839 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:58 pm to
For the record I’m in favor of the new school district as someone who lives in BR proper. There is nothing to lose. As things stand my kids will go to private school because the EBRSS is terrible. Let St. George give it a go. If it fails, nothing changes for me. But if it succeeds, I’ll move to St. George.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10609 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:04 pm to
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but the amount of taxes it will take to sustain St.G will understandably be greater than what I'm paying now.


Why? Do you have any proof of this just to sustain StG? Just to sustain isn’t much based on the current district’s conditions and not wanting to invest much in StG area likely since the SE Baton Rouge school district was pushed before the city of StG was even an idea.



Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4643 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:09 pm to
I know parents of the smart kids in St. George and because they like the magnet programs so much they are prepare to move into EBR if this passes
Posted by Breadcrumbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
3042 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:10 pm to
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For the record I’m in favor of the new school district as someone who lives in BR proper. There is nothing to lose. As things stand my kids will go to private school because the EBRSS is terrible. Let St. George give it a go. If it fails, nothing changes for me. But if it succeeds, I’ll move to St. George.


why don't you just move to Prairieville or St. Francisville now? They have verifiable successful school districts?

I'm just not wanting higher taxes for the experiment of St.G unless I have confidence in the leadership and budget. I hope to have more of an informed decision before I vote but if it is a hope for change situation and not a good quantifiable plan, I'm not convinced yet.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42640 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:10 pm to
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the amount of taxes it will take to sustain St.G will understandably be greater than what I'm paying now


What makes you think that?

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I do not have confidence that the St.G leadership knows exactly how much it will cost to improve it's schools and my surroundings


Again, why do you think it would be more taxes than you pay now?

Remember the voters have to approve taxes. I know SG voters are less likely to vote against taxes than EBR voters as a whole.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10609 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:15 pm to
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I know parents of the smart kids in St. George and because they like the magnet programs so much they are prepare to move into EBR if this passes


The parents must not be as smart as their magnet school kids.

Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2560 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:17 pm to
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my kids will go to private school because the EBRSS is terrible.


This is exactly why the EBRSS is shitty. Between magnet schools, private schools, charter schools and flight to surrounding parishes who's left to teach. We have diluted the student population so much that it is literally impossible for it to be a good school system.




Posted by Breadcrumbs
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
3042 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:24 pm to
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Why? Do you have any proof of this just to sustain StG? Just to sustain isn’t much based on the current district’s conditions and not wanting to invest much in StG area likely since the SE Baton Rouge school district was pushed before the city of StG was even an idea.


I don't even know what you are asking, but I'm asking for proof that creating a whole new government with leadership plus fire, police, maintenance PLUS a whole new school system isn't going to be more costly than what I'm paying for now. I just want to know how much more can anyone guess that I am on the hook for? and no one knows because this is an experiment. We are all on a hope and prayer that StG can isolate itself from the ruins of EBRP at the cost of whatever to separate itself from that situation. Well, I just don't know if I'm permanently enough here to be down for that question mark of a situation. StG isn't really geographically far enough removed from EBRP to justify an unquantifiable amount of tax increase to vote for this experiment.
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