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re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:22 am to tommy2tone1999
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:22 am to tommy2tone1999
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Good schools don't need ringer Magnet Schools. You plead for us to care about the fate of the kids going to magnet schools, yet you really don't give a crap about the rest of the kids who don't do you?. Why should we care about whether the magnet kids keep their schools? In the end, it's really the decision of EBR, not SG.
Indeed. That's the thing here. I get that magnet school parents and charter school parents are concerned. But it's pretty short sighted to say "Wait, what about magnet schools and charter schools in this otherwise horrendous, failing, terrible school system?! I'm voting no."
Your kid can still finish up at Baton Rouge High, or Basis, or Great Hearts. The generation after will have a likely glowing school system that awaits them. How foolish to rally against the future because your kid won the lucky lottery to get into BR High.
This year your kid is blessed to get into Basis. But continuing to pour resources into this failure might just get your kid bussed to Northeast High School, Istrouma or Glen Oaks one day. Is it really worth that risk?
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:11 am to tommy2tone1999
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Good schools don't need ringer Magnet Schools.
This. Magnet and charter schools are usually trying to make up for the crap that makes up most of the rest of the district or the crap the district is becoming in some areas.
Any StG resident student who goes to magnet will have the funding follow him or her, and it’s likely with EBRSS losing a section that took in more money for the district than it cost the district to run that during the required negotiations EBRSS will want the students to come including not being put in back of the line by lowering standards to get the funding following the students especially if StG to provide some extra funds per student to cover additional expenses above the minimum program guarantee that automatically will follow the students.
EBRSS can’t say that now because they want the status quo to continue as StG is extra money for them, but if they lose StG they will have to keep as many magnet students from StG as possible for the additional revenue to cover fixed costs and keep variable costs at optimal levels. Just taking lower performing students from regular schools will leave them short at their former schools as well but not short enough to close any of those schools or make significant cuts. If standards lowered the education at the magnet and good charter schools will also suffer which will cause more of those students to elsewhere.
Truth is that if changeover to StG is slow or small still after several years the district will need less money to operate than EBRSS currently bleeds from it which can go towards helping with future plans, helping pad the money following students to magnet schools to ensure current students finish school completely not just finish the band, and/or be returned to the taxpayers in StG. It will also have local control and by matching the city’s boundaries being able to work with the city’s planning and codes office to limit or at least slow down development trying to overload schools with affordable housing like has happened to Zachary and Central.
The other truth is that EBRSS will need the magnet and maybe the charter students who live in StG to continue going to those schools past the guarantee and will negotiate keeping those students along with some extra $ to allow them to stay past the guarantee. If this is not EBRSS’s back up plan if StG district passes they are completely ignorant or will be the one raising taxes very soon.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:26 am to armytiger96
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13 pages and not a single tangible argument for why this will be successful.
I bet you attended a BR public school because your reading comprehension is very poor.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:31 am to armytiger96
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You already have this. Go look at the attendance zone maps. Woodlawn's current map is very similar to a map of St George.
SG will need two high schools to serve the entire city. One east of airline and one west of airline. The very fact that 20% of the parish only has one high school is an indictment of EBR schools.
There is plenty of funds available to build schools. There is a need for a new school board more student centric and less of an administration.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 11:35 am
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:33 am to armytiger96
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No one is moving back from Ascension to be the first in line.
Capitalism works. You build a good school system and they will come. Watch.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:34 am to doubleb
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SG will need two high schools to serve the entire city. One east of airline and one west of airline. The very fact that 20% of the psridh only has one high school is an indictment of EBR schools.
This. Just another example of how St George was being used as an ATM.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:45 am to doubleb
quote:probably because a lot of St George residents are at BR Magnet, Liberty, U-High or Basis
The very fact that 20% of the parish only has one high school is an indictment of EBR schools.
And I’m sure plenty are at St. Michael’s and Parkview Baptist (
) Woodlawn is the really the only one needed given all the choices
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:49 am to GreenRockTiger
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probably because a lot of St George residents are at BR Magnet, Liberty, U-High or Basis And I’m sure plenty are at St. Michael’s and Parkview Baptist ( )
Probably because their only option is Woodlawn. See how that works?
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:50 am to armytiger96
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No one is moving back from Ascension to be the first in line.
Not the first in line, but let St. George get established and I believe you’ll see more folks moving back to EBR.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 11:56 am to SoggyCerealClub
quote:well - don’t really need another option when there are so many to choose from?
Probably because their only option is Woodlawn. See how that works?
Perkins and Seigen which is in St George is not zoned Woodlawn - that’s McKinley - but that school is in the city limits, so it won’t be a part of St George schools, but the horrible students will be
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:30 pm to GreenRockTiger
new high school to be built in St George by Total Wine
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:44 pm to Giantkiller
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Your kid can still finish up at Baton Rouge High, or Basis, or Great Hearts. The generation after will have a likely glowing school system that awaits them.
Meh, it may glow for a short while, at least as much as it can here, but IMHO now way it is sustained. Seen it play out before too many times
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 5/12/26 at 12:57 pm to doubleb
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SG will need two high schools to serve the entire city.
For 5,000 school aged kids? Better make it at least 4.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 5/12/26 at 1:41 pm to tommy2tone1999
Everybody keeps saying this isn't going to work because it's the same kids, but can't you attend Woodlawn from outside the attendance zone? Idk how it works but isn't that why all the EBR high schools have to play in the select bracket?
The demographics of SG were thrown in the faces of the organizers and they were called racists... but now we're acting like those demographics aren't going to make for a better system? They're favorable to places like Zachary or Gonzales which have decent public schools. Why wouldn't SG?
Are private school kids going to switch? No, very few, if any. But you are absolutely going to see people pick SG over the commute to AP and LP. Again, not all, but some. I really don't see the SG schools looking all that different than AP fairly soon. People on here act like Pville/Dutchtown are lilywhite utopias totally different than SE BR and that's just not the case. It's pretty much the same shite. I've lived in both all my life.
The demographics of SG were thrown in the faces of the organizers and they were called racists... but now we're acting like those demographics aren't going to make for a better system? They're favorable to places like Zachary or Gonzales which have decent public schools. Why wouldn't SG?
Are private school kids going to switch? No, very few, if any. But you are absolutely going to see people pick SG over the commute to AP and LP. Again, not all, but some. I really don't see the SG schools looking all that different than AP fairly soon. People on here act like Pville/Dutchtown are lilywhite utopias totally different than SE BR and that's just not the case. It's pretty much the same shite. I've lived in both all my life.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 2:02 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Perkins and Seigen which is in St George is not zoned Woodlawn - that’s McKinley - but that school is in the city limits,
Again…all the more reason for a St. George school district. Why are we bussing those kids across town? Oh yea, because there’s only one high school in the area and it’s at capacity.
Our neighborhood is zoned for Tara, which is easily a 30 minute commute for us. A commute to Woodlawn would be about the same.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 4:51 pm to tommy2tone1999
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For 5,000 school aged kids? Better make it at least
No
5,000 school age kids won’t be a reason for four high schools.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:14 pm to armytiger96
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So I'll ask again how will it be successful if everyone takes a wait and see approach?
The success is control by the people who live in the area. The wait and see you reference is people who misunderstand success criteria, thinking better schools is success.(although it’s hard to be worse than EBR). The analogy I have is probably not best but I’ll give it anyway. Dying on your feet is better than living on your knees.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:14 pm to armytiger96
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13 pages and not a single tangible argument for why this will be successful. Only hopes, dreams, we have to do something, and we are Central part 2!
As an outsider looking in, I think a lot of people in St. George are being overly optimistic about the financial side of this. I keep hearing claims that residents won’t pay more, yet places like Zachary and Central have nearly double the millage rates. Baker wasn’t able to raise theirs, and we’ve all seen the consequences of that.
The most likely outcome seems to be a school system that performs below Central and Zachary academically, still has a large percentage of students in private schools, and ultimately requires higher property taxes to sustain itself.
If I lived there and my child was already in a Magnet program or I was paying for private school, I’d probably vote no. At that point, if I’m not willing to leave private school anyway, it would be hard to see the benefit for my family.
That said, I’m sure it will probably pass. I’ve noticed that a lot of the things I think are bad ideas tend to get approved, while the things that seem practical or smart often get voted down.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:34 pm to cssamerican
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Baker wasn’t able to raise theirs, and we’ve all seen the consequences of that.
Baker’s problem was a lack of leadership, not a lack of funding.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:44 pm to nicholastiger
quote:open bar in the cafeteria on fridays
new high school to be built in St George by Total Wine
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