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re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:21 pm to jasonbr1975
Posted on 5/11/26 at 12:21 pm to jasonbr1975
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If you live in a different part of the state, please vote yes and give the people of St. George a chance to do better for their kids.
This is where I am. This has no bearing on my life and I would normally just skip this one. However, I would like for the best thing to happen. I just hate that the rest of the state has a vote here. It should just be EBR parish voting on this. Still undecided if yes, no, or skip.
I still can’t believe no one has pushed to change this process especially once any parish school district has another school district form from out of its boundaries the first time. After Baker was formed and even more so after Zachary with its extended boundaries was formed the EBRSS was a parish school district in name only. Central covering a large area of the parish as well finished off any notion of a true parish school district in EBR.
Each amendment basically creates a new school district in the constitution that is to be treated like it’s a parish school district by the state and for taxing authority on top of its educational duties/function. EBR has 4 school districts currently being treated as parish school districts like this by the state constitution.
The state, the state voters, and the parish voters have already approved EBRSS not being a true parish school district 3 times.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 3:30 pm
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:11 pm to LSURussian
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LSURussian
You have shite on the city of St George at every opportunity, going all the way back to the first failed petition drive. I appreciate your attempt to look objective, but I don't believe you ever had any real intention of voting for anything that betters this city as a whole.
I know St. George parents who have children in EBR magnet programs and charter schools, and they are very passionate about this issue. I understand that completely. These parents deserve clear answers about what happens next, and so far, the proposed transition for students already enrolled appears to be reasonable: students can finish the grade band they are already in - elementary, middle, or high school.
It is no surprise to see EBRPSS turn that uncertainty into a political weapon. For many St. George families, magnet programs have been the one part of the EBR system that worked for them. But that actually proves the larger point: families should not have to depend on a selective program, a lottery, or a special exception just to get a quality public education.
In the end, a St. George student already enrolled in a magnet or charter school should be able to complete a substantial portion of their education at the school they already attend. And if history is any indicator (i.e. looking at previous EBRSS retreatants like Zachary and Central), St. George has every reason to believe it can build a capable, successful school system of its own. The goal should be a district where families do not need an escape hatch because the base schools themselves are strong.
St. George is now a city. Its residents deserve the same right other communities have had: the right to create a school district accountable to the families who live there. This movement began with schools, and Amendment 2 is the chance to finally close that circle.
I’m voting YES on Amendment 2.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:34 pm to Giantkiller
quote:Then I will be canceling your vote out...
I’m voting YES on Amendment 2.
And my relatives who live in St. George have told me they will vote NO also.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 2:48 pm to LSURussian
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And my relatives who live in St. George have told me they will vote NO also.
Good for them. And just like in the past, I sincerely hope to be able to spike the football on you just like I did on everything related to the city.
Stay in Baton Rouge and bring your malcontent relatives with you. You sound like such an asset.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 3:28 pm to LSURussian
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Then I will be canceling your vote out...
And my relatives who live in St. George have told me they will vote NO also.
My relatives in StG and in BR are voting Yes now, so they cancel out you and yours.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 3:44 pm to LSURussian
Well, I don’t think there is an answer. EBRP is not going to voluntarily do anything that might help the cause for Amendment 2, and SG won’t say anything that might result in a vote against it. We’ll just have to wait and see.
Side topic: given your name, did you take Zwick for Soviet/Russian politics at LSU undergrad? He was the resident expert on Soviet politics before the SU crashed in 1991.
Side topic: given your name, did you take Zwick for Soviet/Russian politics at LSU undergrad? He was the resident expert on Soviet politics before the SU crashed in 1991.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 6:55 pm to Mung
quote:No, I worked in Russia for several years back in the mid-90s.
given your name, did you take Zwick for Soviet/Russian politics at LSU undergrad?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:04 pm to Giantkiller
quote:That's a very mature attitude. I expect no less from you.
I sincerely hope to be able to spike the football on you just like I did on everything related to the city.
If a majority of voters in SG and East Baton Rouge Parish and the entire state vote Yes on Amendment #2, SG will have its own school district.
And I will say congratulations and move on.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:22 pm to LSURussian
Don’t worry baw I voted yes because I used to live there. Everyone wanted it. I don’t know why anyone living there would vote no and have lower property values while having to bus their kids across town if they were in public school.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:24 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Congrats, enjoy your failing status quo
You're getting failing status quo whether you call St George or EBRPSS. 13 pages and no one has addressed how they are going to improve the student body other than taking the magnet programs from deserving kids once they complete their current band. Taxpayers that have been paying their fair share of taxes and want to send their kids to one of the best schools in the country will no longer be able to do so because you have "hopes and dreams." Now they will get increased taxes and have to decide between moving or sending their kids to Woodlawn+.
There is plenty of talk about a wait and see approach before parents remove their kids from private schools. No one has addressed how it will be successful with everyone sitting on the sidelines.
Everyone points out Zachary and Central but glosses over the fact that there wasn't a massive amount of turnover in administration at these schools. No one has said I hope they keep the same administration in place at Woodlawn as part of their hopes and dreams diatribes! This is more likely to look like Baker than Central.
13 pages and not a single tangible argument for why this will be successful. Only hopes, dreams, we have to do something, and we are Central part 2!
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 9:56 pm to armytiger96
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13 pages and not a single tangible argument for why this will be successful. Only hopes, dreams, we have to do something, and we are Central part 2!
I lived there when this was proposed. The premise was, and I feel still is, local schools for local children. It’s successful already because that’s what they’re getting if it passes. Whether they do a better job than EBR at producing quality schools doesn’t matter to that point . Their money, their choices.
Baton Rouge could’ve made a few basic olive branch offerings and avoided this. But their position was that they were in charge and how dare you ask. I believe I remember Kipp say something almost to that effect. Tyrants get overthrown for better or for worse.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:03 pm to armytiger96
You are concerned about the BRH magnet kids whose taxpaying parents have been paying their fair share of taxes" being displaced. Do you know how many of us "taxpaying" parents had to send our kids to private school because the EBRP school system sucked and it was like that for decades.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:17 pm to armytiger96
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no one has addressed how they are going to improve the student body other than taking the magnet programs from deserving kids once they complete their current band
Once St. George school district gets established, I can see folks from surrounding parishes moving back into EBR. A whole lot of people in Ascension/Livingston make the commute to BR and their traffic situation is awful.
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Taxpayers that have been paying their fair share of taxes and want to send their kids to one of the best schools in the country will no longer be able to do so because you have "hopes and dreams.
So screw all the other kids that don’t get into BRMHS?
St. George has also been paying their fair share and doesn’t have much to show for it. This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:26 pm to BeerMoney
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The premise was, and I feel still is, local schools for local children.
You already have this. Go look at the attendance zone maps. Woodlawn's current map is very similar to a map of St George.
So I'll ask again how will it be successful if everyone takes a wait and see approach? You can have the best coach be he ain't shite without the best Jimmy's and Joe's.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:39 pm to miab777
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Do you know how many of us "taxpaying" parents had to send our kids to private school because the EBRP school system sucked and it was like that for decades.
I have three in private schools right now; fully aware. I'll send my kids to private high schools no matter what. I believe you get what you pay for.
But the main reason why the school system sucks is because between private schools, home schools, magnet schools and charter schools, collectively we have watered down the student body so much it is impossible for the school system to be a good system with all A players sitting on the sidelines.
Who is remaining to get educated and compared to a full segment of society in Texas? It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:47 pm to SoggyCerealClub
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St. George has also been paying their fair share and doesn’t have much to show for it.
That's because they are choosing not to participate. If MBS shut down tomorrow then Woodlawn and Shenandoah elementary instantaneously become better schools.
The problem with the St George idea is no one in this thread has said they will lead by example and be the first to remove their kids from their current school and go to their current public school. They are banking on hopes and prayers while sitting on the sidelines. If everyone sits on the sideline how will it improve?
No one is moving back from Ascension to be the first in line.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 5/11/26 at 10:56 pm to armytiger96
Cities should control their own schools.
Period.
Period.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:36 am to armytiger96
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You're getting failing status quo whether you call St George or EBRPSS. 13 pages and no one has addressed how they are going to improve the student body other than taking the magnet programs from deserving kids once they complete their current band. Taxpayers that have been paying their fair share of taxes and want to send their kids to one of the best schools in the country will no longer be able to do so because you have "hopes and dreams." Now they will get increased taxes and have to decide between moving or sending their kids to Woodlawn+.
How about this. Look at Zachary. Look at Central. Look at the money they funded these systems with, creating incredible performing schools. Then look at the money SG will be funding the school system with.
It's not rocket science. If you want to send your kids to EBR magnet schools, move to Baton Rouge. Don't take the entire system because you want to live in St George and send your kids to BR schools.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:56 am to armytiger96
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That's because they are choosing not to participate. If MBS shut down tomorrow then Woodlawn and Shenandoah elementary instantaneously become better schools.
If MBS shut down tomorrow, St. George wouldn’t have enough seats to accommodate them. That’s kinda the whole premise of getting their own school district.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:59 am to armytiger96
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You're getting failing status quo whether you call St George or EBRPSS. 13 pages and no one has addressed how they are going to improve the student body other than taking the magnet programs from deserving kids once they complete their current band. Taxpayers that have been paying their fair share of taxes and want to send their kids to one of the best schools in the country will no longer be able to do so because you have "hopes and dreams." Now they will get increased taxes and have to decide between moving or sending their kids to Woodlawn+.
Good schools don't need ringer Magnet Schools. You plead for us to care about the fate of the kids going to magnet schools, yet you really don't give a crap about the rest of the kids who don't do you?. Why should we care about whether the magnet kids keep their schools? In the end, it's really the decision of EBR, not SG.
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There is plenty of talk about a wait and see approach before parents remove their kids from private schools. No one has addressed how it will be successful with everyone sitting on the sidelines.
Only the school board has the legal authority to do so. There can only be a school board when this amendment passes and an interim board is appointed. The entire "No Plan" argument is disingenuous, unrealistic and just downright lazy. The process was established long before St. George thought about an ISD.
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Everyone points out Zachary and Central but glosses over the fact that there wasn't a massive amount of turnover in administration at these schools.
There will be a an almost complete overhaul in administration for SG. EBR spends over 50% of the tax revenue it receives on only administration at the home office. We have Central and Zachary to look at as an example of how success happens, and Baker to show us what failure looks like.
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