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re: Do you think Petroleum Engineers will be needed in 30 years?

Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73500 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:06 pm to
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Why not do Civil and concentrate in geotechnical? More flexible.


That’s exactly what I did. Started in oil and gas. Now in transportation.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:07 pm to
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Yeah, you can do it for 1 barrel.....but what if there were 100 barrels......how many gallons is it now smart guy???


Oh, no you don't. That's a change order. Come up with another $150,000 and we can talk. For $300,000, I'll sell you my proprietary spreadsheet that calculates this and you can use it in perpetuity and won't have to pay me anymore.
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 2:08 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60131 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:08 pm to
All engineers will be replaced. I can make a robot that drinks craft beer, bitches about their salary, and rides a bike to work, and we wouldn’t need engineers anymore
Posted by al_cajun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
2442 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:10 pm to
I understand that but we are talking 30 to 40 years till retirement age. I am trying to think further than that graph goes. I got out of it but have been toying with the idea of getting back in.
Posted by JDogg33
Member since Oct 2017
405 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:11 pm to
Yes they'll be needed. Maybe less demand.

However, I'd still recommend anyone against upstream O&G. Too volatile. Glad I left before things crashed. No desire to return.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33900 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:21 pm to
2/3 not bad
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74883 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:24 pm to
30 yes.
130 idk.

There is still a need for coal miners. Think about that
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:25 pm to
yes. There may be fewer of them and many might be doing different work than they are now, but they'll definitely still be around.
Posted by Engineer
Member since Dec 2015
279 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:28 pm to
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Glad I left before things crashed. No desire to return.


Said all the soy boys who wanted a fat check but couldn’t handle working in the field.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:35 pm to
I went into Electrical engineering because it will always be in need and its diverse. Solar, nuclear, etc. As well as being able to venture into other avenues. I pretty sure in certain states the need will be there, just not as many depending on what other avenues open up in O&G.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
6231 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:38 pm to
My job is safe. 1.6 percent chance of being taken over by automation.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19448 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:46 pm to
In 30 years, definitely. Long run, not so much. Regulations and alternative energy will drive out petroleum over time.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19448 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:51 pm to
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Said all the soy boys who wanted a fat check but couldn’t handle working in the field.


Field work sucks. My life has improved since I ditched the field work and get to work in an air conditioned office for more money
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106059 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 2:57 pm to
Go into industrial or mechanical and work for a truck nuts manufacturer. When the roughnecks are out of work you will still have demand from plant baws.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2964 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 3:34 pm to
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I guess the only reason I question it is if electric or some other form of cars take off in the next 30 years where would that leave the demand?


Oil will still be needed. Most people don’t realize that oil plays a part in almost everything that we buy not just gasoline. As the demand for gasoline goes down there will be demands for other components of the crude.
Posted by GetEmTigers08
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2007
1242 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 3:47 pm to
The demand will always be there, even if a lot of the oil industry becomes automated. My reasoning for going ChemE instead of Petroleum was that cheme's can basically do everything a PE does with only a little training, but being a chemE allows one to do a much wider discipline than one only associated with petroleum.

It's not unheard of to find a chemE working for the likes of Intel, NASA, or Chevron, but you won't see that with PE's. If someone is going into engineering in college, I don't see why they would limit their career by doing PE, IMO.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 3:52 pm to
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Would the OT stay in O&G and risk it or change industries while you're young and still can?

There are basically three reasons I’ve heard, over the years, about why oil & gas jobs might go away:

1. Peak oil - the idea that we will reach a point where we run out of new reserves to tap. Experts have been blabbering about this for 50 years and they keep revising the theoretical date we will reach peak oil further into the future. The combination of exponential demand growth and technological improvements have pretty much debunked the idea that we will reach peak oil before it is replaced as our primary source of energy. Which leads to...

2. Peak DEMAND - the idea that new energy sources will replace crude oil & natural gas, and eventually cause O&G to go the way of coal. This WILL happen eventually, but “when?” is a pretty damned important question.

I personally believe that electric cars/trucks will become the norm in the next 20-30 years, which would make power generation the real question. Renewables are taking an increasing share, but fusion is the thing that could wipe O&G off the map. I don’t know if we are 15 or 150 years away from a sustained fusion reaction with net energy output - it’s a wild card.

3. Automation. I think this is overstated. As in most industries, automation will continue to take an increasing share of the workload. Artificial intelligence has the potential to take over a lot of reservoir engineering tasks. But that’s not specific to O&G, and history has shown us that automation/productivity enhancements don’t replace human engineers as fast as demand growth (see: autocad). Meaning there will still be an increasing number of jobs.

Here’s my take on PETE overall: if you want to be an engineer, go into chemical or mechanical (or civil if you can’t hack it, I guess...). Even if oil & gas is around in its current form for 200 more years, it will still be a boom and bust industry. Other engineering fields give you much more flexibility and the earning potential is the same. Just my 2 cents.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12866 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 3:58 pm to
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Oil will still be needed. Most people don’t realize that oil plays a part in almost everything that we buy not just gasoline. As the demand for gasoline goes down there will be demands for other components of the crude.

I see this argument a lot. While true, this is misleading. 75% of US petroleum consumption is used for fuels. If you were to eliminate that portion, would there still be a market for plastics, asphalt, etc? Sure. But only a few places in the world will be able to profitably produce crude oil when demand falls by 75%. Hydraulic fracturing and offshore production won’t make that cut, and the US will be priced out of the market.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19448 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 4:05 pm to
I agree, people always say that we will always use oil for plastics and other manufacturing, but you take transportation out of the demand and oil will be nearly worthless
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7878 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 4:39 pm to
70+ years ago the “in” curriculum at LSU was Sugar Engineering.
How many cane farmers are left out there ?
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