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re: Do you really believe there are more stars in the sky than grains of sand on beaches?

Posted on 7/22/24 at 5:09 am to
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 5:09 am to
Infinite amount of sand on earth and known beaches while the universe is. as far as we know, infinite. If we are correct then logically there are more stars than sand. There is much more we don't know that what we do know.
Posted by cassopher
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 6:08 am to
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Sextillion = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (10^21)


There’s gotta be more sand than that? With all of the deserts and beaches (there’s a lot of both) in the world, there’s got to be more than that. I was thinking more like an octillion or a nonillion, give or take.
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
447 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 6:11 am to
The Milky Way is one galaxy.

The Sun is one star in the Milky Way.

The Milky Way has 1 billion(1,000,000,000)stars, conservatively.

There are roughly 2 trillion(2,000,000,000,000) observable galaxies(updated from 2 billion since we now have Hubble).

Now try to wrap your head around the word “observable” and know the universe is expanding infinitely.

It’s beyond our ability to reconcile due to how small we are. But we can certainly try harder than the “muh flat Earth bruh” ignorance


Hint: you can add in the sand in all the deserts and under the oceans. Doesn’t change this. Nothing is more than infinite. Finite number of granules of sand vs infinite.

The Earth is one piece of rock circling that one star we call the Sun.
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 7:55 am
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 6:23 am to
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They said, if you assume a grain of sand has an average size and you calculate how many grains are in a teaspoon and then multiply by all the beaches and deserts in the world, the Earth has roughly (and we're speaking very roughly here) 7.5 x 1018 grains of sand, or seven quintillion, five hundred quadrillion grains.


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Our stargazer gets a Hubble telescope and a calculator, so now we can count distant galaxies, faint stars, red dwarfs, everything we've ever recorded in the sky, and boom! Now the population of stars jumps enormously, to 70 thousand million, million, million stars in the observable universe (a 2003 estimate), so that we've got multiple stars for every grain of sand — which means, sorry, grains, you are nowhere near as numerous as the stars.


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Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
Land of the Rice n Son
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:06 am to
Meh infinity?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:16 am to
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The Milky Way has 1 billion(1,000,000,000)stars, conservatively.




Way more. 100x as many at least


Posted by lsufan9193969700
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55914 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:18 am to
No
Posted by Krane
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:23 am to
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:03 am to
quote:

Do you really believe there are more stars in the sky than grains of sand on beaches?

There are more wannabe stars in Hollywood than grains of sand on the beach.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
21232 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:08 am to
I am not a geologist or an astrophysicist.

I’m also not a mathematician.

I’m not a lot more things than I am.

I know Russia is a big country and Ukraine is a small country.

I’m told that IF I pay more taxes now, the weather will be really good in 5000 years.

My farts are destroying the earth.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17066 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:11 am to
It's hard to comprehend and believe but I think it's just a matter of one being very tangible to us while the other isn't.

You see sand all the time. You walk in it, grab handfuls of it, etc.

Sure you see stars, but just whats observable in the sky, which is a tiny tiny, miniscule fraction.

Space is just way bigger than our minds can comprehend.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25911 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Do you really believe there are more stars in the sky than grains of sand on beaches?


Nope. There are exactly as many stars are there are grains of sand on the earth.
Posted by jpcajun
Member since Nov 2010
1423 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:40 am to
Doesn't mean that there are stars infinite
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14539 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:46 am to
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Space is infinite


One thing always bothered me. If it isn't infinite and you go to the very edge, what is three feet past where you are?

Is the edge of the universe the wall of a box? if, so, what is on the other side of the box wall? Is the box floating in a lake? Of what? Is it on a shelf in a warehouse somewhere? Maybe a Cosmic KMart? "Attention Shoppers, blue light box special on Isle 14"?

If the answer is that the other side of the very edge of the universe keeps expanding outward/away into nothingness, then it sounds like it really is infinite. Pulses back and forth? What is on the other side of the pulse? Seems to me there must be an edge to a finite universe somewhere? Once again, the question about the other side of the edge.

Good questions to ponder when you have smoked some wacky weed. I know, edibles are where it is at.
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 11:47 am
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25754 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:46 am to
Meh. Really DGAF either way. Ain’t gonna help me get money or pussy either way.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39874 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:46 am to
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I’m not an astronomer but I just don’t believe this to be true
I mean, the current galaxy count is 2 trillion. TWO TRILLION! GALAXIES!!!

If just our lonely little backwater here of the Milky Way has 100 billion stars, then it seems like it wouldn't even be close.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:36 pm to
Maybe it's easier to quantify how many numbers are between 0 and 1 vs how many grains of sand there are?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44932 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:50 pm to
there are more possible moves on a chess board then there are stars in the visible universe
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2415 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:54 pm to
Have you ever pondered why space is black? This profound question lies at the heart of a centuries-old enigma known as Olber’s Paradox. Olber wondered, if the universe is infinite and full of stars, why we don’t see a uniformly bright night sky. Olber’s question led to investigations into the nature of the Universe that resolved his paradox. Basically, we don’t see a sky filled with light because the universe is not infinite.
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