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re: Do you find it hard to reason with staunch religious people?
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:08 pm to northshorebamaman
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:08 pm to northshorebamaman
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he would have wiped the floor with me in a religious debate.
Just ask him to explain the Pearl of Great Price.
Game, set, match.
Mormons are easy.
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Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:21 pm to RoosterCogburn585
I'm not able to tolerate most typical church services. If it's a party like this, I might visit, but otherwise, I find "preacher delivery" too irritating.
They obviously mimic each other to the point that they have similar speech patterns. There's this range of delivery where they hit on really similar tones and inflections. Sometimes their voice will rise and become tonally (and totally) sure of themselves when they're trying to land a point of emphasis, or get an amen.
I don't know how people are able to stand listening to it because it's overwhelmingly annoying to me.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:30 pm to BayouBreaux
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It's a hyperbolic metaphor that emphasizes the difficulty,but not the impossibility of salvation you actually think he meant that a camel would go through the eye of a needle???? Is that flip-floppy enough ?
Maybe you need to go back to 5th grade reading comprehension class.
That's exactly what it says.So in other words the entire bible is filled with nothing but "hyperbolic metaphors" right? And I can interpret every single pronouncement however suits my hypocritical arse best, right?
So Buddhists are all going to heaven cause they've been "Born Again" over and over and over through reincarnation right?
I can worship Zeus and Apollo all I want and still get to Heaven. Cause when he said thou shall have no other "before me". I'm not putting anyone "before" him. I'm making them keep their distance from him, right?
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:34 pm to Philzilla2k
quote:Well, he's dead. And most Mormons are easy. He actually expanded emphasis on the PoG within the church. I'm not arguing he was correct but he was not your average Mormon in that regard. From grok:
Just ask him to explain the Pearl of Great Price.
Game, set, match.
Mormons are easy.
quote:I'm not dumb enough to think I'm going hit a guy like that with some shite he isn't ready for.
Hugh Nibley wrote extensively about the Pearl of Great Price, particularly its Book of Abraham and Book of Moses sections, which he saw as central to understanding Joseph Smith’s prophetic project. His major work, The Message of the Joseph Smith Papyri: An Egyptian Endowment (1975), analyzed the Book of Abraham through the lens of ancient Egyptian religion, arguing that its imagery reflected authentic temple and initiation practices. Rather than treating the papyri as a literal word-for-word translation, Nibley viewed them as symbolic texts resonant with ancient Near Eastern ritual structures.
He expanded this interpretation in Abraham in Egypt (1981), where he drew parallels between Abraham’s narrative and Egyptian religious motifs, suggesting deep cultural continuity between ancient traditions and modern revelation. Nibley also lectured and wrote extensively on the Book of Moses, framing it as a restoration of early Christian and Jewish cosmology. His analyses helped establish the Pearl of Great Price as a key theological and historical bridge within Latter-day Saint thought, encouraging believers to read it not merely as revealed scripture but as part of a much older and universal sacred pattern.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:41 pm to TigerGman
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Maybe you need to go back to 5th grade reading comprehension class.
That's exactly what it says.So in other words the entire bible is filled with nothing but "hyperbolic metaphors" right? And I can interpret every single pronouncement however suits my hypocritical arse best, right?
So Buddhists are all going to heaven cause they've been "Born Again" over and over and over through reincarnation right?
I can worship Zeus and Apollo all I want and still get to Heaven. Cause when he said thou shall have no other "before me". I'm not putting anyone "before" him. I'm making them keep their distance from him, right?
Wow this is all over the place. I have no idea what opinion you're defending with this, but the dig at someone's reading comprehension was a nice touch, considering what followed.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:56 pm to GRTiger
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quote:
Maybe you need to go back to 5th grade reading comprehension class.
That's exactly what it says.So in other words the entire bible is filled with nothing but "hyperbolic metaphors" right? And I can interpret every single pronouncement however suits my hypocritical arse best, right?
So Buddhists are all going to heaven cause they've been "Born Again" over and over and over through reincarnation right?
I can worship Zeus and Apollo all I want and still get to Heaven. Cause when he said thou shall have no other "before me". I'm not putting anyone "before" him. I'm making them keep their distance from him, right?
Wow this is all over the place. I have no idea what opinion you're defending with this, but the dig at someone's reading comprehension was a nice touch, considering what followed.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 5:58 pm to northshorebamaman
NSB is like AugustaDawg, except his posts are intelligent and interesting.
Posted on 10/30/25 at 6:10 pm to TigerGman
You commenting on comprehension..thats rich !!!
(pun intended)
(pun intended)
This post was edited on 10/30/25 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:36 pm to chryso
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The Bible doesn't say that Jesus went to the bathroom but I am pretty sure he did.
No shite.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 2:17 am to BayouBreaux
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You commenting on comprehension..thats rich !!!
(pun intended)
Trust me. Watching hypocrites like you crawfish on an undeniable pronouncement by Jesus is much richer.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:30 am to TigerGman
God bless you, brother.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:27 am to soccerfüt
quote:Trump cultist…
Try having a conversation with a militant atheist.
CrossFit, Atheist, Libertarian, Anti-Vaxxer, etc
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:22 am to StansberryRules
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Some people believe men can become women.
Spare me the lectures about which side is unreasonable.
Should have shut down thread right here.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:59 am to suavecito80
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Might want to do some research on this one buddy. Many other civilizations (not religions) mention a flood of some sort. Across the earth.
Think about what you are saying.
If the Earth was completely flooded, and Noah and the inhabitants of his ark were the only survivors, what other civilization would be left to document it? Everyone else drowned. The only survivors were Noah and his descendants (allegedly).
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:41 am to RoosterCogburn585
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Do you find it hard to reason with staunch religious people?
Do you include secular religions like reddit atheists and communists in your question?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:41 am to ronricks
I try to avoid them. I see a propensity for obesity, poverty, a yen for fairy tales, folks putting what few bucks they do have into little wicker baskets being passed around. Anyone who thinks the earth is 6,000 years old is extremely low iq.
True Detective Season 1?
True Detective Season 1?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:05 am to inadaze
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Sometimes, yes. But I rarely ever get into arguments or conversations specifically about religion with christians anymore. I became so tired of it years ago. Their viewpoints, almost always based on geographic indoctrination, are too predictable,
You nailed it (bold part).
I never initiate those kind of conversations. I have no interest in doing so. If one of them tries to initiate one with me, I do my best to try and change the subject. If they persist, I fire the big guns, and it rarely ends well.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:09 am to StansberryRules
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Some people believe men can become women.
Spare me the lectures about which side is unreasonable.
Perhaps that's the result of the religious folks absolutely refusing any place for people struggling with those things.
When the "help" is telling you you're going to hell...who wants that?
Religion has done far more damage far long and in my opinion, directly led to what you thought was a gotcha.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:12 am to TigerGman
Read the parable on the rich man.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:13 am to Reflex
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Perhaps that's the result of the religious folks absolutely refusing any place for people struggling with those things.
When the "help" is telling you you're going to hell...who wants that?
I don't find most Christians, or any that I know, to be this way. What's your particular experience with this?
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