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re: Do any truck brands still offer a full size model with manual transmission?

Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:42 pm to
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There's no reason these days in trucks, the automatics have equal or better torque capacity and are better at handling towing loads. With turbocharged engines, the automatic transmission keeps the turbo spooled between shifts and gets it spooled quicker in the low end.


The sports car world is changing in a similar fashion. Crs that were never sold with automatics now have cars sold with automatics out numbering the sticks. Even though the Corvette has always been offered with a manual stick there have been couple of recent model years where none were sold equipped with a manual trans.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:48 pm to
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must be kind of a cult following for standards


Performance cars still have a big 3 pedal following. When manufacturers of cars like the M3 and GT 3 and GT 4 try to wean Americans off of their manuals all hell breaks loose. While sequential boxes are quicker there is something ethereal about a perfect heel/toe dance.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103799 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:33 pm to
I couldn’t imagine a sports car without a stick. That’s just blasphemy

The whole point of a sports car is they’re fun (and hard) to drive and to master it is a beautiful thing.

It’s the only reason I wish I could get a truck with one. It’s just more fun to drive tbh
Posted by jflsufan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
5248 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:41 pm to
I thought about getting my son a manual transmission when I was looking for a truck for him. Best way to keep them off their phones while driving. Ended up with an automatic.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24440 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:48 pm to
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These new automatic transmission are so efficient that they have made manual transmissions completely unnecessary.



Maybe if you spend a bunch and tune them professionally for exactly how you drive. But for the most part that's simply not true.

If driven properly you can get better gas mileage using a manual, have more torque when needed, and they are cheaper.
Posted by Bigbee Hills
Member since Feb 2019
1531 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 11:25 pm to
Disagree. Pull thirty thousand pounds around 5 to 7 days of the week and then holler at me.

Having manual transmission gives a driver the ability to OPERATE the vehicle instead of drive it.

There's a reason why people who truly pull weight down the highway- whether their vehicle's GCWR is 46,000 pounds or 26,000 pounds- is a manual transmission.

You know not what you speak of.
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
8017 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 6:42 am to
You might check out the Livingston parish edition trucks
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:07 am to
My Tacoma is 12 and is basically the same size as a new one.
This post is wrong.
I love my plastic bed Taco, but it's no where close to a full size truck unless you go back to the 1940's
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:09 am to
To answer OP: Ram diesel 2500 and up are the only full size trucks offered with a handshaker

I'd pay extra for a manual. I've only owned 1 and loved it. Even as good as todays automatics are they still piss me off with horribly timed upshifts and they're obsession with getting to 6th gear before I get to 40 mph. And this is in a brand new HD truck.

Eta: I've done an experiment the last 2 days with my truck, a 2018 F250. One day I made it shift like I wanted and averaged 11.8 mpg on the day dragging the boat. The next day i put it in tow/haul and let it go whatever it wanted. 11.0 mpg on the same trip. Automatics are dumb.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 8:18 am
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
8017 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:16 am to
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Tacoma is 12 and is basically the same size as a new one.
This post is wrong.
I love my plastic bed Taco, but it's no where close to a full size truck unless you go back to the 1940's

Tacoma’s are the smallest truck out there. That’s the only reason I don’t have one. That and the over abundance of plastic inside.
Front to back. Colorado’s are the same size as older full size trucks, it’s the width that gives the older trucks more size inside.
I was just glad that I got a full size f-150 for the same price as a smaller truck
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:21 am to
The Ram 2500/3500 still do for now. I believe it's going away next year.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
4228 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:22 am to
quote:

My Tacoma is 12 and is basically the same size as a new one.
This post is wrong.
I love my plastic bed Taco, but it's no where close to a full size truck unless you go back to the 1940's


a 2000 GMC sierra 3 door access cab had a 143.5" wheel base and a 78" bed. Brand new, this cost $36,392 in today's dollars

a 2019 Toyota Tacoma access cab has a 140.6" wheel base and a 73.2" bed. and costs $32,888 MSRP

Basically the same damn truck give or take 3" - 5". Your move, waterloo.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:34 am to
Really wish I had spent the extra money and bought one instead of the F250 while they're offered. My kids will never learn except for on a tractor.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:45 am to
When I bought my Sierra after Katrina Chevy offered a WT in a manual, but it was really stripped down.
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
59435 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 8:58 am to
Paddle shifters can change gears a lot quicker, and still give you the ultimate decision as to what gear the car is in.
Posted by btnetigers
South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2015
2331 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:18 am to
I'm sure that you can special order one.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:31 am to
Nope
Posted by OnePercent
Member since Sep 2016
231 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:00 am to
quote:

The Ram 2500/3500 still do for now. I believe it's going away next year.


This is correct, I believe it died with the redesign
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:20 am to
But since mid size trucks are pretty much the size of half ton trucks from 20 years ago and are more than capable for most people I am digging the new Jeep Gladiator, which offers a manual.
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