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re: Did you know German & Italian WW2 POWs were imprisoned in the US?
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:41 pm to LSUFreek
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:41 pm to LSUFreek
I mean they were all over the US. It's crazy to read these post where things like this are suddenly discovered. I'm not knocking ya, I'm guessing history is taught very very poorly HS now and most don't take it university. I think i had a jr high or HS history teacher spend some time on WW2 POWs and compared the US POWs in Japan to those in German and then talked about how good the axis POWs had it.
You can find a lot of info at various state historical society websites on these. Here is one on MS camps.
LINK
What I remember reading was first hand accounts of how the Axis POW got to the US and saw how prosperous it was and then spent some time on the train and realized how large the US was and knew they never had a chance of winning.
Also, they had it much better than the free citizens back in their homelands. In WI and MN they were allowed to be farmed out to work on local farms where people still spoke German at home. The Italians would often build beautiful chapels and believe it our not, many came back to the US after being sent back to their homeland and settled near where they were imprisoned as they had made connections to the locals.
You can find a lot of info at various state historical society websites on these. Here is one on MS camps.
LINK
What I remember reading was first hand accounts of how the Axis POW got to the US and saw how prosperous it was and then spent some time on the train and realized how large the US was and knew they never had a chance of winning.
Also, they had it much better than the free citizens back in their homelands. In WI and MN they were allowed to be farmed out to work on local farms where people still spoke German at home. The Italians would often build beautiful chapels and believe it our not, many came back to the US after being sent back to their homeland and settled near where they were imprisoned as they had made connections to the locals.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:46 pm to LSUFreek
My grandfather was a doctor at the time and treated some Germans in Louisiana.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:56 pm to LSUFreek
I know several families along with my own( grandfather) who worked German pows in the rice field. also, my wife’s grandfather was a pow in northern Italy while his father was working German POWS in the Rice fields around Gueydan. He was also 100% pure German heritage.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:58 pm to LSUFreek
It tracks.
Japanese immigrants were put into camps during the war.
Our hands weren't clean, either
Japanese immigrants were put into camps during the war.
Our hands weren't clean, either
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:03 pm to KemoSabe65
Thers is a road called the Berlin Rd you are right but there is a community called Berlin which is on county road 25 and is between hwy 425 and Wilmot, Arkansas.
There was also Camp Monticello. Alot of it still remains intact. Very interesting to research and think back on hearing stories of the findings that have been told and documented.
There was also Camp Monticello. Alot of it still remains intact. Very interesting to research and think back on hearing stories of the findings that have been told and documented.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:11 pm to LSUFreek
Yes, some Germans were held at an area near where I live now and built some walls and other small structures at a nearby park.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:18 pm to gungho
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There was a German POW camp in Ruston, LA
and West Helena, Arkansas
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:43 pm to Lexis Dad
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Japanese immigrants were put into camps during the war.
Our hands weren't clean, either
Are you trying to say that the internment camps we put people of Japanese heritage in were comparable to the POW camps the Japanese ran for US soldiers and captured civilians?
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:02 pm to LSUFreek
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Wow. And I thought Des Allemands were all cajuns.
They are. I mean they are of German descent mostly, but from the 1700s, not 1945.
Not sure where he heard his false factoid. There wasn’t a significant settling there by German POWs
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:17 pm to Ace Midnight
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You can go out in the woods between Tioga and Pollock and find evidence they left behind, to this day.
Camp Livingston
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:24 pm to LSUFreek
My biggest miss of an Item... It was an Arika Korps m43 cap... On the inside, the guy had written all the places he had worn it in. It said, Tripoli, Benghazi, NY, Roswell NM.. The seller wanted too much for it and now I regret not getting it.
Yes.. POW's all over the USA. One of the reason was housing and food shortages at the time in England. Especially when the Afrika Korps started surrendering in May of 1943.. The Air war was getting started and Allied forces were just starting to be built up in England. But food was really scare for the British people, so the decision to ship them to the USA made perfect sense.
Of course one of the first thing they were hired to do was farm labor... They were operated by the Provost Marshall's office and the pay to them was $0.80 per day.
Also housing POW"s in the South reduced the need for cold weather clothing, and housing for them. Regular troops were separated from more Political Nazi's troops and they were housed in different locations.
In El Reno Oklahoma was Fort Reno. It was first used as an outpost against indian's in the early days of pioneer settlements. In WWII it was used as a POW camp, and also a remount station for Breeding Army Mules. The Prisoners helped train animals if they weren't helping the farmers.
Here is the camp.
The German's and Italians also built this Chapel at Fort Reno.
Something of interests is that if a POW died, they had to be buried. But they didn't want to bury the enemy with US soldiers under the US Flag, so they built a wall and buried them separate and not under the US flag. As this photo shows..
Here are just a couple of the graves..
This is all that I own of WWII Fort Reno
Now... In southern Oklahoma along the Red River was a small camp in Powell Oklahoma, that housed about 500 prisoners. Lake Texoma was being built at the time and it started filling in 1944. Pows were assigned to cut lumber. The biggest complaint that the Germans had about Oklahoma were the miserable summers.
In Powell Oklahoma after the camp was disbanded, the army removed everything but left the water well and the building foundations because they were made of concrete. Years later the old farmer pushed the foundations to the road and left them in a ditch so he could farm his land again.
Not knowing that 8o years later some old guy with a fascination about WWII would come along and be thankful for an old piece of concrete. But it was a gift from God to me.
Now very quickly I want to show a piece that I own... a copy of Yank Magazine April 1944.
Why is this important to the POW story... Well. here is the story.
It contains the letter of Rupert Trimmingham
In April 1944 Trimmingham and eight fellow black soldiers were traveling by train from Camp Claiborne in central Louisiana to the military hospital at Fort Huachuca, Arizona, when the train made a one-day layover in a small Louisiana town. Trimmingham wrote a letter recounting what happened that was published in the 28 April 1944 edition of Yank Magazine:[2]
Trimmingham's first letter to Yank
April 28, 1944
Dear Yank,
Here is a question that each Negro soldier is asking. What is the Negro soldier fighting for? On whose team are we playing? Myself and eight other soldiers were on our way from Camp Claiborne, La., to the hospital here at Fort Huachuca. We had to lay over until the next day for our train. On the next day we could not purchase a cup of coffee at any of the lunchrooms around there. As you know, Old Man Jim Crow rules. The only place where we could be served was at the lunchroom at the railroad station but, of course we had to go into the kitchen. But that's not all; 11:30 a.m. about a two dozen German prisoners of war, with two American guards, came into the station. They entered the lunchroom, sat at the tables, had their meals served, talked, smoked, in fact had quite a swell time. I stood on the outside looking on, and I could not help but ask myself these questions: Are these men sworn enemies of this country? Are they not taught to hate and destroy all democratic governments? Are we not American soldiers, sworn to fight for and die if need be for this country? Then why are they treated better than we are? Why are we pushed around like cattle? If we are fighting for the same thing, if we are to die for our country, then why does the Government allow such things to go on? Some of the boys are saying that you will not print this letter. I'm saying that you will.
Cpl. Rupert Trimmingham
Fort Huachuca, Ariz.
That's all I got for tonight baws.
WWIIC
Yes.. POW's all over the USA. One of the reason was housing and food shortages at the time in England. Especially when the Afrika Korps started surrendering in May of 1943.. The Air war was getting started and Allied forces were just starting to be built up in England. But food was really scare for the British people, so the decision to ship them to the USA made perfect sense.
Of course one of the first thing they were hired to do was farm labor... They were operated by the Provost Marshall's office and the pay to them was $0.80 per day.
Also housing POW"s in the South reduced the need for cold weather clothing, and housing for them. Regular troops were separated from more Political Nazi's troops and they were housed in different locations.
In El Reno Oklahoma was Fort Reno. It was first used as an outpost against indian's in the early days of pioneer settlements. In WWII it was used as a POW camp, and also a remount station for Breeding Army Mules. The Prisoners helped train animals if they weren't helping the farmers.
Here is the camp.
The German's and Italians also built this Chapel at Fort Reno.
Something of interests is that if a POW died, they had to be buried. But they didn't want to bury the enemy with US soldiers under the US Flag, so they built a wall and buried them separate and not under the US flag. As this photo shows..
Here are just a couple of the graves..
This is all that I own of WWII Fort Reno
Now... In southern Oklahoma along the Red River was a small camp in Powell Oklahoma, that housed about 500 prisoners. Lake Texoma was being built at the time and it started filling in 1944. Pows were assigned to cut lumber. The biggest complaint that the Germans had about Oklahoma were the miserable summers.
In Powell Oklahoma after the camp was disbanded, the army removed everything but left the water well and the building foundations because they were made of concrete. Years later the old farmer pushed the foundations to the road and left them in a ditch so he could farm his land again.
Not knowing that 8o years later some old guy with a fascination about WWII would come along and be thankful for an old piece of concrete. But it was a gift from God to me.
Now very quickly I want to show a piece that I own... a copy of Yank Magazine April 1944.
Why is this important to the POW story... Well. here is the story.
It contains the letter of Rupert Trimmingham
In April 1944 Trimmingham and eight fellow black soldiers were traveling by train from Camp Claiborne in central Louisiana to the military hospital at Fort Huachuca, Arizona, when the train made a one-day layover in a small Louisiana town. Trimmingham wrote a letter recounting what happened that was published in the 28 April 1944 edition of Yank Magazine:[2]
Trimmingham's first letter to Yank
April 28, 1944
Dear Yank,
Here is a question that each Negro soldier is asking. What is the Negro soldier fighting for? On whose team are we playing? Myself and eight other soldiers were on our way from Camp Claiborne, La., to the hospital here at Fort Huachuca. We had to lay over until the next day for our train. On the next day we could not purchase a cup of coffee at any of the lunchrooms around there. As you know, Old Man Jim Crow rules. The only place where we could be served was at the lunchroom at the railroad station but, of course we had to go into the kitchen. But that's not all; 11:30 a.m. about a two dozen German prisoners of war, with two American guards, came into the station. They entered the lunchroom, sat at the tables, had their meals served, talked, smoked, in fact had quite a swell time. I stood on the outside looking on, and I could not help but ask myself these questions: Are these men sworn enemies of this country? Are they not taught to hate and destroy all democratic governments? Are we not American soldiers, sworn to fight for and die if need be for this country? Then why are they treated better than we are? Why are we pushed around like cattle? If we are fighting for the same thing, if we are to die for our country, then why does the Government allow such things to go on? Some of the boys are saying that you will not print this letter. I'm saying that you will.
Cpl. Rupert Trimmingham
Fort Huachuca, Ariz.
That's all I got for tonight baws.
WWIIC
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:28 pm to IndianPower
The part of Berlin Rd. that I am familiar with is the northern part that runs almost to Hamburg, AR. Had family on that road for many years and also hunted in a deer camp right off Berlin Rd. Not the same deer camp you mentioned earlier though.
Drove that road many a nights to get down to Bastrop.
Drove that road many a nights to get down to Bastrop.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:29 pm to Lexis Dad
Yup. The Imaharas were interned.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:43 pm to LSUFreek
Many Texas high school football stadiums were built by German POWs in the 40s. Cleburne High School and Stingaree Stadium in Texas City to name a few.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:51 pm to LSUFreek
Yes. I went to school in some portable classrooms that were once their barracks. Farmers could even rent them to work the fields.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:59 pm to junkfunky
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My grandma would always say something about the German in him when my brother's temper got going. I had no idea where that came from until I was older because all of my ancestors post Acadia had French names.
Many Germans came with Acadians from Nova Scotia hence “German coast “
And yes Acadia parish
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:10 pm to LSUFreek
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Wow. And I thought Des Allemands were all cajuns.
Cajun has very little to do with being and more to do with being a descendent of the Acadians that came here from Nova Scotia
French folks that came to La from France are not Cajun
Germans Italians and other nationalities came to with Acadians/cajuns
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:12 pm to LSUFreek
There were also some held in Hammond
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:17 pm to LSUFreek
I wasn't aware of this history, either, until I visited Camp Shelby outside of Hattiesburg, MS.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:42 pm to LSUFreek
A kraut camp was in Clinton. Jackson's Hawkins Field also trained Dutch pilots in WWII.
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