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Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:52 pm to Bmath
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Because taking a test replicates real world conditions and scenarios.
We can argue all day if tests are a valid form of revealing professional real world skills, but you have to have some sort of barometer to measure folks against each other, and today that barometer is an exam.
Fairly or unfairly these exams determine the future course of people's lives, therefore, it is not unreasonable to ask for a level playing field when taking them.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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no i'm just smart as frick and could develop systems for it, but continue to make your own assumptions
Mine caught up with me in college. I learned through the homework, and made up for being a space cadet in elementary and high school.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:53 pm to Bmath
If you need extra time to take a test why won't you need extra time to perform work task? Would you feel comfortable knowing your doctor who needed to make a life saving decision needed extra time in order to pass his med school test, because I know I wouldn't.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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no i'm just smart as frick and could develop systems for it, but continue to make your own assumptions you think i rack up 300k posts on this board by being well focused on the tasks at hand?
No, you just don't know what real ADHD is...you only know what you think you know and it's based on your own personal experience. Having a short attention span is not even remotely close to ADHD. It's a neurobiological disorder. You can actually watch the brain on meds of someone with ADHD and someone without...completely different brain functions. But keep on with your self-inflated smarts.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:54 pm to The Mick
I could've used this information circa 2005
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:54 pm to Ex-Popcorn
quote:Did you know that Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny actually aren't friends and have a long standing rivalry?
Did you know that kids with real ADHD actually need special treatment to complete the ACT and SAT?
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:55 pm to The Mick
They also get special treatment in grad school. We take our exams over 4 hrs and people with ADD/ADHD just have to fill out a form and they get 6-8hrs depending on the exam.
It's quite a load of bullshite considering part of what makes our exams difficult is the time crunch, so that totally doesn't apply to them.
It's quite a load of bullshite considering part of what makes our exams difficult is the time crunch, so that totally doesn't apply to them.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:56 pm to Ex-Popcorn
I think he's suggesting that he could fool a doctor, not that he actually has it. I doubt most diagnoses for ADHD include a detailed analysis of amphetamines working in the brain.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:56 pm to Mo Jeaux
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I never did it myself, but I can say that, looking back, I kind of wish I had
I also wish I had used this ploy when in school. Scholarship money would have skyrocketed.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:56 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Fairly or unfairly these exams determine the future course of people's lives, therefore, it is not unreasonable to ask for a level playing field when taking them.
lmao...so much fail in this thread. Kids with real ADHD are not looking for a leg up. They are looking for any way to simply survive and move on to the next grade. It's about simply graduating high school since that's what is required in society. The thought of college or a "profession" is a pipe dream for parents of kids with ADHD.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:57 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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therefore, it is not unreasonable to ask for a level playing field when taking them.
Well that's the idea behind accommodations and medication.
It's a work around for students who are smart enough to comprehend and apply the material, but have a deficiency that makes it difficult to complete the exam under standard conditions.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:57 pm to King George
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Santa Clause
Who?
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:58 pm to Mo Jeaux
Tim Allen
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:59 pm to Epic Cajun
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I also wish I had used this ploy when in school. Scholarship money would have skyrocketed.
Oh yeah. I also knew a girl in law school who got all kinds of Native American scholarships and benefits. She was lily white, but wore a turquoise necklace. I should have primed that pump too.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 1:00 pm to HempHead
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Tim Allen
Posted on 4/20/17 at 1:00 pm to lionward2014
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If you need extra time to take a test why won't you need extra time to perform work task? Would you feel comfortable knowing your doctor who needed to make a life saving decision needed extra time in order to pass his med school test, because I know I wouldn't.
I think you are confusing ADHD with intelligence and critical thinking skills. Most people with ADHD think really well on their feet.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 1:01 pm to HempHead
no i could have been diagnosed with it. my father, brother, and sister are all diagnosed with it. i had very similar issues as my sister (brother was much more extreme) but i was much better at swooping in at the last minute and saving the day, or creating systems to get around the work
like in 1st grade i wouldn't pay attention in math but could make 100s on the tests (we're talking simple multiplication here) b/c i realized that the tests were basically a developing pattern (1x2, 2x3, 2x4, etc) so i just had to get the first 2 right and BOOM i could solve the entire test. boom. then i had a full hour to go frick off in lala land. i actually got busted because i went from 100% every test to like a 25% and actually had to have a parent-teacher meeting about it and i explained my mistake (i got like the 2nd one wrong or didn't look at the entire pattern of the test) and why i made the 25% and the teacher was just like, mouth open.
but it was like a reward or punishment. i could figure it out and do something faster and then get the reward of space time, or just not pay attention and do space time first and then be forced to figure out a way to get myself out of the trap. i did that shite in law school, because i didn't read or pay attention during class
like in 1st grade i wouldn't pay attention in math but could make 100s on the tests (we're talking simple multiplication here) b/c i realized that the tests were basically a developing pattern (1x2, 2x3, 2x4, etc) so i just had to get the first 2 right and BOOM i could solve the entire test. boom. then i had a full hour to go frick off in lala land. i actually got busted because i went from 100% every test to like a 25% and actually had to have a parent-teacher meeting about it and i explained my mistake (i got like the 2nd one wrong or didn't look at the entire pattern of the test) and why i made the 25% and the teacher was just like, mouth open.
but it was like a reward or punishment. i could figure it out and do something faster and then get the reward of space time, or just not pay attention and do space time first and then be forced to figure out a way to get myself out of the trap. i did that shite in law school, because i didn't read or pay attention during class
Posted on 4/20/17 at 1:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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like in 1st grade i wouldn't pay attention in math but could make 100s on the tests (we're talking simple multiplication here) b/c i realized that the tests were basically a developing pattern (1x2, 2x3, 2x4, etc) so i just had to get the first 2 right and BOOM i could solve the entire test. boom. then i had a full hour to go frick off in lala land. i actually got busted because i went from 100% every test to like a 25% and actually had to have a parent-teacher meeting about it and i explained my mistake (i got like the 2nd one wrong or didn't look at the entire pattern of the test) and why i made the 25% and the teacher was just like, mouth open.
Maybe you're a mild Aspie-savant.
Posted on 4/20/17 at 1:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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no i could have been diagnosed with it.
ADHD is a completely different animal than what you are describing. It's one of those things that you can legitimately say, "Unless someone close to you really has it, you have no idea what it is."
And, the fact that you think the medication is "performance enhancing" tells me that you don't understand what I'm talking about. They are performance enhancing to someone with ADHD like someone who wears glasses to see something closer to 20/20. But, if someone else put on those same glasses, they could see twice as far and twice as clearly as 20/20.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 1:08 pm
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