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re: Did Burke Ramsey kill JonBenét Ramsey?
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:35 pm to DarthTiger
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:35 pm to DarthTiger
From the same link and interview.
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[–]MarkBeckner[S] 12 points 1 day ago This will be my last post, but after reading some of the follow-up posts, I believe there may have been some misinterpretation of some of my comments or "reading between the lines". I want to emphasize that I do not fully know what happened that night or who killed JonBenet, as some have surmised. If anyone did, this would not be a mystery. This is why I do not speculate. I simply answered questions as truthfully as possible and only on things that have already been reported. Dismissing the intruder evidence is a mistake and as I emphasized in an earlier post, the location of the foreign DNA is significant. This could very likely be the person who killed JonBenet. However, we will not be sure until and if they find out who it belongs to. And, just because we can not prove a point of entry, doesn't mean someone didn't find a way to get in. Just as I believe we can not exonerate on one piece of evidence, neither can we ignore evidence. Finally, everyone is presumed innocent until proven otherwise. Thanks again.
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:37 pm to Lsupimp
Exactly- these scumbags are everywhere. Look at the guy that was just driving past Jamie Kloss and the plan he formulated. Look at the psycho that was driving and saw 2 kids in the backyard- he bound/killed the family and took the 2 kids- torturing and assaulting them over and over- even killing the boy. We like to think that these are outliers- and the idea of her family doing this makes us feel safer- like it's not likely to happen to us or our kids. But good Lord, these sickos are all around you.
This post was edited on 3/10/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:38 pm to Lsupimp
I appreciate your input and well thought out opinions as it gives different insight from a different point of view.
It seems to me that a person so sexually hyped and willing to committ physiological tortue is also the type that could not stop and would do this again. They would have to have had intimate details of the layout of the house, details of the Ramseys schedule and intimate details of Johns Christmas bonus. They would have to have a way to enter and exit unseen ( Burke stated someone opening the refrigerator downstairs would wake him up). Not saying it isnt possible but that would take tremendous amount of research and everything playing out perfectly.
What are your thoughts on John changing his story about her being asleep versus he read them a story and also John turning on Fleet White and accusing him of being the killer?
It seems to me that a person so sexually hyped and willing to committ physiological tortue is also the type that could not stop and would do this again. They would have to have had intimate details of the layout of the house, details of the Ramseys schedule and intimate details of Johns Christmas bonus. They would have to have a way to enter and exit unseen ( Burke stated someone opening the refrigerator downstairs would wake him up). Not saying it isnt possible but that would take tremendous amount of research and everything playing out perfectly.
What are your thoughts on John changing his story about her being asleep versus he read them a story and also John turning on Fleet White and accusing him of being the killer?
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:40 pm to schatman
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Exactly- these scumbags are everywhere. Look at the guy that was just driving past Jamie Kloss and the plan he formulated. Look at the psycho that was driving and saw 2 kids in the backyard- he bound/killed the family and took the 2 kids- torturing and assaulting them over and over- even killing the boy. We like to think that these are outliers- and the idea of family doing this makes us feel safer- like it's not likely to happen to us or our kids. Nut good Lord, these sickos are all around you.
It doesn't really make any sense that Fleet White, Ramsey family friend and who had the xmas party, was called by Ramsey's attorney hours after the body was found and told not to talk to the police.
Why?
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:42 pm to Corso
I think I was leaning towards an intruder more easily maybe because...
I couldn't imagine a father or mother breaking off a large paint brush and shoving it in their own daughter to break her hymen-- with only a touch of blood. (Isn't there usually a lot of blood?)
And then strangling her big time with severe marks and bruising.
Even if they thought she was already dead.
I get it could have been done to look like rape and cover for Burke.
But my mind doesn't want to go there. As parents they should have checked her pulse and called the cops and told the truth that it was a sibling rivalry accident.
Their child needed obvious mental health help.
I couldn't imagine a father or mother breaking off a large paint brush and shoving it in their own daughter to break her hymen-- with only a touch of blood. (Isn't there usually a lot of blood?)
And then strangling her big time with severe marks and bruising.
Even if they thought she was already dead.
I get it could have been done to look like rape and cover for Burke.
But my mind doesn't want to go there. As parents they should have checked her pulse and called the cops and told the truth that it was a sibling rivalry accident.
Their child needed obvious mental health help.
quote:Also Patsy didn't hang up her phone after calling 911 and she said, "okay, I called the police, what's next?" and it sounded like Burke's voice in the background when he should have been asleep...
But he may have a girlfriend
Though he hasn’t spoken about his romantic life, Burke has been rumored to have a girlfriend. In 2015, an Australian news outlet shared a social media photo of the then-28-year-old looking cozy with a pretty blonde woman. It’s unclear if they were actually dating or whether they’re still together.
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This post was edited on 3/10/21 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:48 pm to SOSFAN
I have to work but will respond later. 
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:49 pm to Gris Gris
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This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:49 pm to LSUintheNW
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doesn't really make any sense that Fleet White, Ramsey family friend and who had the xmas party, was called by Ramsey's attorney hours after the body was found and told not to talk to the
This also caused a huge fight, between Fleet and Johns brother, that started at 1 house and continued for 2 more houses. It was so heated that the police were called to intervene and the Whites asked to leave. John eventually told the police that Fleet White was his #1 suspect for killing JonBenet.
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:53 pm to cajunangelle
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Burke's voice in the background when he should have been asleep...
Burke admitted on dr. phil that he was awake laying in bed and not asleep. So he changed that part of the story.
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:57 pm to LSUintheNW
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They would have to have had intimate details of the layout of the house, details of the Ramseys schedule and intimate details of Johns Christmas bonus.
Didn't the Ramsey's have a Christmas walkthrough of their house just days before the murder? Didn't JonBenet personally walk the party Santa Clause through the house as well?
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:58 pm to cajunangelle
Did they ever confirm via autopsy that she had burns from a stun-gun?
Posted on 3/10/21 at 1:59 pm to Lsupimp
quote:My main man Pimp,
Nothing new or definitive. Just informed opinion of the non-sensationalized-Burke Ramsey variety based on my knowledge of these crimes in general, and this case in particular. I would say to look at the overwhelming psycho-sexual signature binding components of the case, the extended torture she endured, her public profile as a a Mall beauty queen, the fact that the perpetrator likely used his knowledge of the Ramseys as yet ANOTHER layer of psychological torture against them, and the unbelievable incompetence of every law enforcement official in Boulder. IMHO-This was a VERY highly-organized killer with a specific attraction to girls of this age who executed a specific plan that allowed him to be in the home for many hours and gather the things he needed and write the weirdly low-IQ effeminate red-herring letter (while they were at the party and on earlier occasions), that partially unraveled on him because of noise or other circumstances, that was outside the family and friends circle etc.
I also want you to know that this is an opinion that has evolved, over time. The Ramseys imho, were among the most victimized human beings of modern times and are deserving of nothing but compassion. They had moral-complicity of course because they basically hyper-sexualized a 6 year old and put her out there in the public domain as bait for the worst human beings on the planet. But that's a lot different than actually doing what they are accused of doing. I can also tell you that many of those most-close to the family and the case in general have come to this conclusion. She was targeted from a pageant/mall appearance. Somebody became fixated on her. These people are everywhere.
Is it possible they torture-murdered their already-dying daughter and concocted a completely unnecessary diabolical plan to cover up and accidental death? Sure. Anything is possible. But when you walk yourself through it , it all unravels.
I can't believe I got baited into this lol because now I know from the previous 587 threads on this topic, what happens next. Glutton for punishment.
Just seeing this now because it was on the bottom of the prior page. The bottom-line is the police were inept so the cobweb story doesn't convince me.
Was the father in a known company and his bonus check was published in a company newsletter; that the killer saw because he worked at the father's company in some capacity?
This post was edited on 3/10/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 3/10/21 at 2:00 pm to cajunangelle
Here is what Burke recently said about the case.
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also assured the public the case can be solved. “There’s a narrative out there that this is an unsolved homicide and that we just have to accept that as fact, and that is not the truth,” he said. “If we leverage the evidence [and] we follow the facts, we will find this killer.”
Posted on 3/10/21 at 2:07 pm to cajunangelle
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so the cobweb story doesn't convince me.
The cobweb was pointed out during the same time frame as the body being found and not only by the police.
[quote]Was the father in a known company and his bonus check was ?
John was President and CEO of the company. Doubt they would have posted his year end bonus.
Don't forget the grand jury voted to indict both John and Patsy. The prosecutor elected not to take them to court.
Posted on 3/10/21 at 2:13 pm to SOSFAN
The more I read about this case the more I think there’s a very obvious suspect. Santa Clause. He can get in any house without being caught and doesn’t leave a trace
Posted on 3/10/21 at 2:19 pm to schatman
The stun gun was speculation by Lou Smit because of two marks on her neck, but the caliber was wrong. The caliber did match those of a toy train track found in the basement.
Posted on 3/10/21 at 2:24 pm to OldmanBeasley
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can get in any house without being caught and doesn’t leave a trace
He does like children..well at least well behaved children.
Posted on 3/10/21 at 2:24 pm to OldmanBeasley
Ironically, they guy who played Santa Claus at their home was a suspect. His own daughter and a friend of hers had been kidnapped years before. His daughter escaped and the friend was raped. He also wrote a story about a young girl who was kidnapped and murdered. Dude was creepy as hell. He was cleared as a suspect though.
This post was edited on 3/10/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 3/10/21 at 2:27 pm to SOSFAN
Someone needs to contact the proper authorities, because we may have just cracked this case
Posted on 3/10/21 at 2:29 pm to OldmanBeasley
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Someone needs to contact the proper authorities, because we may have just cracked this case
I'm not snitching on Santa Claus. That would get me bad list for life.
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