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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:34 pm to
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But it is clear to me at various times he was putting pressure on his neck with his knee.


Then he’s not guilty if it’s a various times.

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Is that what killed him? I don't know


Then you’re giving him reasonable doubt.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97036 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:34 pm to
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Even more interesting, they didn't ask one single question or ask for one piece of evidence.


Yup that was concerning. Usually a case of this magnitude would have several requests for such
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18561 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:34 pm to
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Even more interesting, they didn't ask one single question or ask for one piece of evidence.



They were told that they would have a computer in the deliberation room with access to all of the exhibits in digital form. But it is odd they didnt ask for clarification on any of the jury instructions.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:34 pm to
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Even more interesting, they didn't ask one single question or ask for one piece of evidence.



That's not an encouraging sign for the defense.
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:34 pm to
Nm
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7163 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:34 pm to
It was never about facts. If it had been more publicly investigated initially before him being railroaded into charges, he wouldn't be here right now to start with.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74213 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:34 pm to
It makes me somewhat uncomfortable that a jury can reach a legit, well-reasoned verdict in such a short time period regarding such a big case
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:35 pm to
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They were told that they would have a computer in the deliberation room with access to all of the exhibits in digital form. But it is odd they didnt ask for clarification on any of the jury instructions.



Ahh good to know.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61450 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:35 pm to
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Oh shite! Verdict reached.

Milk, bread, ice, gas, whisky and Doritos have been bought, I can probably make it till tomorrow before we are out of something important
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477223 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:35 pm to
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That's not an encouraging sign for the defense.

yeah. major betting has to be swinging way to conviction
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28594 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:35 pm to
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Yeah unless a juror went in his chambers and straight up said frick yall, I aint voting guilty, it wouldn't likely be called hung this quickly.


Not for a hung jury.

But there's no reason which would prevent the jury from acquitting on a short time cycle either. Having a verdict reached doesn't suggest anything particularly good or bad.

I still predict acquittal.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87383 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:35 pm to
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They were told that they would have a computer in the deliberation room with access to all of the exhibits in digital form. But it is odd they didnt ask for clarification on any of the jury instructions.



Is it though?

Ted: "Guys shouldn't we..."

Everyone else: "If you don't do this Ted we'll tell everyone it was you"
Posted by partyboy1930
Member since Jan 2014
1453 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:35 pm to
shite will burn and looting will happen no matter what happens I bet.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:35 pm to
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Guys, chauvin is going to found guilty of the murder charge


I don’t see how they remotely proved the murder charges. I still think it’s remotely possible that Chauvin accidentally killed Floyd, but now not beyond a reasonable doubt. Surely someone in that room has to see the murder charges as ridiculous given what the defense presented.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130323 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:36 pm to
The jury knew they were going to convict from moment 1. It didn't matter what was said. Those people weren't ruining their lives over the cop.

This will be appealed and Chauvin actually has a decent chance.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:36 pm to
FWIW, the Zimmerman verdict took the same amount of time.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 2:37 pm
Posted by BrewDrees95
Member since Jan 2021
468 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:36 pm to
Man, this is absolutely brutal for Chauvin. I am stunned we have a verdict already
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:36 pm to
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Yeah unless a juror went in his chambers and straight up said frick yall, I aint voting guilty, it wouldn't likely be called hung this quickly.



yeah the only way I can see a hung jury is if they are split down the middle and neither side was willing to compromise...or maybe 1 or 2 jurors said..."He's not guilty and I will stay here a month and nothing will change my mind"
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
8504 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:36 pm to
There mind was made up before the trial started. Maybe one or two had some questions, but the majority swayed them to convict.

I say guilty on all counts, then it goes to appeals.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477223 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:36 pm to
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FWIW, the Zimmerman verdict took the same amount of time.

that was completely different

the defense literally slaughtered the prosecution up, down, left, and right in the Trayvon case
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