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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:52 pm to Capitalist
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:52 pm to Capitalist
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the offender knew or should have known of the victim's incapacity.
Her “friends” leave her. She’s by herself with a BAC of somewhere over .319. The four cheesedicks enter the picture…
abduct
/æb'd?kt/
Verb
To take away by force; to carry away (a human being) wrongfully and usually with violence or deception; to kidnap.
If it hasn’t already been discussed, am I wrong?
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 9:57 pm
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Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:52 pm to Winston Cup
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Did they leave her or were they used to her going home with random strange after the bar?
Look here. Another defense consultant making up shite.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:52 pm to TigerinKorea
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guys like that stick out like sore thumbs
Tigerland is a mixedbag as far as demographics and LSU students/nonstudents. Someone broke down the % of different groups as a guesstimate earlier in the thread. I saw a sadvocate post that made a joke about "the 3 remaining LSU students that live near there" and that is about right. That area is rough now. So there isn't one type of clientele or all Greek like you may be remembering.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:53 pm to TigerinKorea
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Outside of an abduction or a drug deal, how does a young lady like Madison (SSA grad, beautiful, sorority) end up with four rapey noncollege cheesedicks from Walker/Denham on a random night out in Tigerland? Because even at a place like Reggie’s, under normal circumstances, guys like that stick out like sore thumbs, and usually ladies like Madison steer clear, and are hanging with other Greeks. I find it extremely odd how she ended up with the four cheesedicks. Every single aspect of this story screams rape.
Fair question
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:54 pm to Winston Cup
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Did they leave her or were they used to her going home with random strange after the bar?
Kuppy , your Cowgirls failures are clouding your bro-friends assessments
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:04 pm to dukke v
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Green….. I’m talking about getting blitzed on a huge amount of booze. To get a .319 rating is excessive gulping. Unless somehow somebody slipped her something in a drink.
That is not how BAC works. It's not a measurement of "total fricked-up-ness" that would include a roofie in there to boost it up to .319, the .319 is strictly blood alcohol content.
Plus in the affidavit it says they did a tox screen on her and found only alcohol and THC, no rufalin (roofies). They easily could've gotten her to smoke that weed though, and to someone who isn't used to it - mixing it with alcohol is damn near incapacitating in itself without a .319 to boot.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:04 pm to TigerinKorea
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If it hasn’t already been discussed, am I wrong?
You aren't. A woman made poor choices that a lot of us make and paid with her life. Poor choices, in situations like this, shouldn't lead to rape and death.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:05 pm to Winston Cup
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Did they leave her or were they used to her going home with random strange after the bar?
Honest question: does that change the fact that a women with a BAC of 0.319 cannot legally consent to sex?
No?
Does it change the fact that AT LEAST one of the perps knew she was too drunk and said that it "wasn't right"?
No?
Then shut the frick up.
They raped her. They left her to die. They deserve hanging.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:06 pm to Chad504boy
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I’ve noticed flags at half staff Covington today is it because of Madison?
No, it’s for the mass shooting in California. Suppose to be through Thursday at sunset
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:08 pm to TigerinKorea
Yes, the deception was they said they'd bring her home. She was (according to the affidavit) too drunk to even tell them where she lived. Their intent was to rape her once they got her in the vehicle. This is shown by their driving 2 miles away from the bar and then taking turns (one vaginally and then the other anally) raping her.
Seems like kidnapping. After they were done with her they drove her to the Burbank area and dumped her in a neighborhood just off Burbank. She wandered by to Burbank and tried to flag down a vehicle and was struck and killed.
Seems like kidnapping. After they were done with her they drove her to the Burbank area and dumped her in a neighborhood just off Burbank. She wandered by to Burbank and tried to flag down a vehicle and was struck and killed.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:09 pm to Gravitiger
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So as a driver I don't owe a duty of care to other passengers in my personal vehicle? If I am negligent and they are injured, they can't sue me?
I think if you drive around the rapists during the rape, you get charged with rape:
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All persons concerned in the commission of a crime, whether present or absent, and whether they directly commit the act constituting the offense, aid and abet in its commission, or directly or indirectly counsel or procure another to commit the crime, are principals.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:13 pm to VADawg
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It seems like you don't understand just how bad a .319 BAC really is. She may have needed her stomach pumped had she lived.
Not sure what true expert is going on come on for defense and state it was reasonable for them to not notice how completely incapacitated she was at .319 BAC and accept first yes after 5 or more attempts to ask for sex.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:14 pm to JudgeHolden
100%
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:17 pm to dallastigers
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Not sure what true expert is going on come on for defense and state it was reasonable for them to not notice how completely incapacitated she was at .319 BAC and accept first yes after 5 or more attempts to ask for sex.
Nobody could say that. These guys probably have no defense, except for the one who wasn’t driving and didn’t rape her.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:18 pm to TigerIron
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If someone leaves their kids with you and something happens to the kid you can be legally responsible without any contract and without it being your occupation. Probably you can be responsible even if the kid just wanders on to your property. There are also tons of other examples but you'll probably just keep adding in additional qualifiers you didn't mention in the first place, like you did here.
If you think her friends are or could be criminally liable because they left the bar without her idk what to tell you
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:21 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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If you think her friends are or could be criminally liable because they left the bar without her idk what to tell you
I doubt that. It’s just an odd part of the story.
In ordinary circumstances, you’d expect her friends to be looking out for her or getting her home.
I’m not casting blame. We don’t know. It’s just unusual.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:22 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:Agreed. Thanks for getting us back on track
I think if you drive around the rapists during the rape, you get charged with rape
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:25 pm to JudgeHolden
Is there even any word on if her friends had already left?
People would wander off all the time right at closing time. It could be real hard to keep track of everyone in your group unless you are actively trying to. It wouldn't take much to convince someone that drunk to get in the car and go home. Some girls would just jump in any car to get out of there
It's pretty chaotic around then
People would wander off all the time right at closing time. It could be real hard to keep track of everyone in your group unless you are actively trying to. It wouldn't take much to convince someone that drunk to get in the car and go home. Some girls would just jump in any car to get out of there
It's pretty chaotic around then
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:27 pm to Pelican fan99
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It's pretty chaotic around then
That could be the answer. Everyone was drunk, and someone got missed. That at least makes sense.
If she did have friends there, they are going to have a tough time dealing with all this.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:29 pm to JudgeHolden
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In ordinary circumstances, you’d expect her friends to be looking out for her or getting her home.
Curious if the police talk to the friends what else they may learn. Were these 4 guys the ones plying her with drinks? She was 19 and one of the guys was 28. Curious what else may come out before trial.
Also be interesting to know if these four were texting before, after, during the crime. Even a stupid text before going out saying let’s go find some drunk sorority girls, would be incriminating given what transpired.
I hope BRPD is still investigating, although I should probably know better.
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