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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:57 am to
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7803 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:57 am to
As a casual observer of this board feud, might I make an appeal for decency on a thread that is likely to be read by many who know the victim and her family. Just on this ONE thread maybe we could demonstrate a little less ego, be a little less attached to our egos, and try a little less hard to “ win” a thread. It’s just common decency. Also , knowing how the Universe gives back, I’d caution anybody from having too much hubris in general, especially when discussing our children. None of us, or them are immune from mistakes or tragedy."

PEACE .

Excellent post!

Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27471 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:59 am to
I find it interesting that the warrant stated that the 17 year old had to ask her five times if he could have sex with her. As if he was taught to ask enough times to a drunk girl until she says "yes" and then it is ok in his mind.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23008 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:59 am to
quote:

This is exactly what I am saying.


But it's not.

Comparing drunk sex to this is a sophomoric oversimplification. You're making a silly comparison and accusing people of "adding specific qualifications" to excuse something one way or the other. You know as well as I do that every situation is unique, and that "specific qualifications" are exactly the difference maker.

To quote Philadelphia resident Meek Mill, "there's levels to this shite"
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
8062 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:59 am to
With this and the Alison Rice murder. At this point there is no fricking way I’m sending my kids to LSU. Fortunately they are young still so they have a few years to grow a pair and do what needs to be done.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:00 am to
I’m not reading 42 pages but . . .

What happened to her friends? I find it odd she was at the bar alone and blackout drunk.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476555 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:00 am to
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ETA: he even uses allegedly when these dudes are dead to rights guilty lol

They go to trial and win, I don't want to be sued

The NAACP is on this. They may go scorched earth.

I think I found the disconnect, also. People are assuming since I'm making relations to poster behavior it's in a way to say "c'mon, you've done it too, it's not a big deal" but it's more like "you have done this too (or defended it in the past). have some self-examination time"
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79909 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:01 am to
quote:

“Can you tell, that she was intoxicated, yes. To the point under the law that you say you’re in a drunken stupor, to the point that you cannot lawfully give consent or answer questions, absolutely that was not the case,” said Haley
Where will this scum find an expert willing to say she could give consent with that 0.3 blood alcohol level...
quote:

0.30-0.39%: At this point, you may be unconscious and your potential for death increases. Along with a loss of understanding, at this BAC you’ll also experience severe increases in your heart rate, irregular breathing and may have a loss of bladder control.


Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56230 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:02 am to
quote:

I find it interesting that the warrant stated that the 17 year old had to ask her five times if he could have sex with her. As if he was taught to ask enough times to a drunk girl until she says "yes" and then it is ok in his mind.


Didn’t read the warrant, curious to know if he asked for sex & then doing what he did makes a difference
I hate even asking that question but it could show she didn’t consent to what they actually did
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2959 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Saturday I was called racist in a thread on the MSB, now I’m a NAACP lawyer on the OT
Well, I think some NAACP lawyers are racist, so why not both
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23008 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:03 am to
quote:

Where will this scum find an expert willing to say she could give consent with that 0.3 blood alcohol level...


He can surely try, but if they dropped her off on the side of the road because she was too drunk to remember where she lived, it might be a hard sell

quote:

They go to trial and win, I don't want to be sued

The NAACP is on this. They may go scorched earth.



I'm laughing imagining Ben Crump introducing an El gaucho post into evidence
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178860 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:04 am to
quote:

I find it interesting that the warrant stated that the 17 year old had to ask her five times if he could have sex with her. As if he was taught to ask enough times to a drunk girl until she says "yes" and then it is ok in his mind.



in a backseat, with 4 dudes in the car, then shares her with another dude, then dumps her. It's all very disgusting and tough to deal with.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86163 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:05 am to
quote:

I guess people are way too primed and emotional to have a discussion about this situation today.


Or it could just be that your pathological need to be an edgy contrarian and your slavish devotion to your ego makes people on this board pity you. I can’t be angry at you for making yourself the edgy focus of threads that normal people are really emotionally shaken by. I just feel pity for you. And I know better than to ask you to self - regulate or reflect on the neediness of your psychology , because you can’t. The best I can hope for is that the mods send you a message to go take a walk outside and clear your head.

Now, as for the rest of us pitiful sinners who realize how flawed we are, let’s all choose to be good to each other today and look out for each other.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:05 am to
If she hadn’t gotten hit on Bluebonnet, nobody ever would have known. There is zero chance she could identify the assailants.

For all you “never LSU!” assholes, keep that in mind. This happens on every campus. You just know about this one. If you think your daughters are safe from this somewhere else, you are dreaming.

Now think about all the women walking around today scarred because they got shitfaced when they were eighteen and things happened to them. That should give us all some pause.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
4655 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:05 am to
quote:

This is the first time I've ever seen this website unified in calling men who sleep with drunk women rapists. That's for sure.



You left out the part about 3 men on 1 woman who they just met, and that small tidbit about her .391 BAC and subsequent death after being run over in the middle of the road.

But hey, other than that you nailed it.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48380 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:05 am to
quote:

I'm saying many posters have done/supported the exact same rapist behavior


You know, I can't say that I know anyone who got a girl drunk to the point of nearly passing out, ran a train on her, and then dumped her in a shitty neighborhood not caring what happened to her.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46718 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:06 am to
Slow, serious question, what does the actual law say regarding the in between cases.

Yes, everyone here basically agrees that if this girl was completely incoherent as it sounds (other than to the lawyer) then this is cut and dried.

But what does the law say for the other cases? People aren’t carrying around BAC monitors to tell where someone stands. Yes the easiest advice is if any doubt at all stay away.

Again, to be clear, I am not talking about this case.

You talked about people being too emotional to discuss this.

I would like a sincere discussion about other instances in regards to the law.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27471 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Didn’t read the warrant
warrant linked in first post of thread.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178860 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:06 am to
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There is zero chance she could identify the assailants.


besides the fact that they were on video at reggies and besides the fact that these assholes had videos of shite?
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
27471 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:07 am to
quote:

I'm saying many posters have done/supported the exact same rapist behavior and many of them have historically made posts supporting the behavior on this very message board.
many posters? How about some names and links to posts?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178860 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:07 am to
quote:

, I am not talking about this case.


then probably is the wrong thread for any discussion point that isn't exactly relevant to these events.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 8:14 am
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