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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

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Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
24352 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:08 am to
Has anyone seen the video in the car?

Just curious if that’s playing a part in anyone’s guilty verdict.

Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:08 am to
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Where will this scum find an expert willing to say she could give consent with that 0.3 blood alcohol level...


The defense may be that she drank more after they dropped her off. Lot of unknown facts. Please understand I am not defending these bubbas.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178860 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:09 am to
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The defense may be that she drank more after they dropped her off.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60639 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:10 am to
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For all you “never LSU!” assholes, keep that in mind. This happens on every campus. You just know about this one. If you think your daughters are safe from this somewhere else, you are dreaming.

there is absolutely a higher risk of something like this happening in BR but yeah, this is a major university thing and not a BR thing.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79909 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:11 am to
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For all you “never LSU!” assholes, keep that in mind. This happens on every campus. You just know about this one. If you think your daughters are safe from this somewhere else, you are dreaming
There isn't just one level of risk at all colleges. There are safer schools than LSU.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:11 am to
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besides the fact that these assholes had videos of shite?


I didn’t know that. But it wouldn’t matter much. Odds are she would never have reported it.

Now if these dumbasses starting passing it around, as dumbasses who film rape are likely to do, then yeah, they’d get caught.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24085 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:12 am to
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I'm not defending them, though.

That’s exactly what you did. You said it wasn’t rape and that it wasn’t their fault she was killed when the rapists dropped her in the middle of a 50 mph zone at a .3+ BAC

Don’t crawfish now
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85585 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:12 am to
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many posters? How about some names and links to posts?


You may have deleted it already, but that deltaland dude got pretty trillhog-ish
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12846 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:12 am to
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The problem with your post is, I'm not.

I'm saying many posters have done/supported the exact same rapist behavior and many of them have historically made posts supporting the behavior on this very message board.

Now, everyone is adding specific qualifications to avoid scrutiny of their own personal decisions in the past, to make this event so idiosyncratic it in no way related to the time they may have crossed the line.

I am not defending the alleged rapists. I'm calling many posters commenting on this story as if it's the end of the world, potential offenders.

We have a case where the victim’s BAC was 0.319 and the offenders picked her up, pulled over on the side of the road, and two of them took turns having sex with her while the other two sat in the front seat. At least two of the accused have already made statements to police admitting that she was drunk to the point of incoherence. One of them admitted to police that he thought it was wrong. The affidavit says she had injuries consistent with anal sexual assault.

You’re drawing a false equivalence between this scenario and all other cases where the girl’s ability to consent is remotely in question. If people interpret that as minimizing the crime, it’s because you are - by insinuating that people commenting are also rapists and that this is commonly accepted behavior.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56230 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:12 am to
Thanks
I am not sure if it matters with them saying she consented then them raping her where they did
Not that I think she was able to consent but in my mind there’s a difference in vaginal consent & anal consent

Jesus I feel awful for her family knowing the details of what happened to her
Posted by pizota13
Addis, La
Member since Feb 2013
228 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:12 am to
They will NOT GET AWAY with this....Every parent of a young lady between the ages of 18-22 are feeling this hard. I pray for her family and friends.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:12 am to
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There are safer schools than LSU.


And there are more dangerous schools that seem “safe.”

You could always send your daughter to a convent, I guess.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46855 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:14 am to
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I'm in no way defending the actions of the 4 guys with respect to the alleged rape


2 guys are alleged raped.

Not 4.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:15 am to
Dude, I’m just speculating on what the defense may be if it goes that far.

Years of experience have taught me that a lot of things seeming obvious aren’t so obvious.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79909 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:15 am to
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And there are more dangerous schools that seem “safe.”

You could always send your daughter to a convent, I guess
What a stupid, defensive reply.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24085 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:15 am to
Thankfully the statute is very clear that she can’t consent in this situation. Even if they have video allegedly showing she agreed—doesn’t matter

quote:

When the victim is incapable of resisting or of understanding the nature of the act by reason of a stupor or abnormal condition of mind produced by an intoxicating agent or any cause and the offender knew or should have known of the victim's incapacity.
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2959 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:15 am to
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As if he was taught to ask enough times to a drunk girl until she says "yes" and then it is ok in his mind.
Family guy did this one with Sean Connery

Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
1059 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:16 am to
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And there are more dangerous schools that seem “safe.”


Which ones are they? It might be a good idea to avoid them as well.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23008 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:17 am to
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When the victim is incapable of resisting or of understanding the nature of the act by reason of a stupor or abnormal condition of mind produced by an intoxicating agent or any cause and the offender knew or should have known of the victim's incapacity.


The guys telling police that she was so drunk she couldn't stand up or give directions is gonna be uhhhh.... problematic to their defense
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11622 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:17 am to
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Which ones are they? It might be a good idea to avoid them as well.


Southern’s track record for violent crime isn’t great lately.
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