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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88151 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:22 pm to
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I think she could have said three different addresses AND they STILL COULD HAVE DUMPED HER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD BECAUSE SHE WAS WASTED. This three address thing is a red herring.
Theres no reason to yell. We have covered this a ton. If she asked to get out, they have to let her. But if the Uber story is true how did that happen without a phone? It certainly needs more clarity but there was at least an attempt to bring her where she wanted to go based on what Nak saw.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:23 pm to
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"She seems lucid to me..." is what they wanted Nak to say


THIS IS GOING TO BE GRAPHIC

The video is after the sex. I’m thinking painful, injury causing rape would wake you right on up.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:24 pm to
Ok. I’m caught up. Thanks.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:25 pm to
I did have some inaccurate posts early in the thread as a father of 3 girls I struggled to read the affidavit.

I don't find a debate over facts to be offensive, nor do I think you have done anything but treated the facts in a balanced manner. I've never questioned your motives or contributions.

We are operating on limited information, spin, and assumptions as far as the video inside the car.

I believe Madison was raped and the 4 guys bear responsibility. I made that known and suggested other crimes they could be charged with.

I do not know any of the folks involved, though my sympathy is with the family and friends of Madison as her loss is a tragedy.

I have and will continue to discuss these issues with the 'bar age crowd' folks I know.

I always advise people be careful what car you get into and who you ride with because whatever trouble they're in or about to get in they'll bring you down with them.



Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38122 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:27 pm to
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So you think he’s lying when he says the video shows them bringing her to 3 separate addresses. Just to be totally clear. Thanks.


I don’t think his opinion was solicited because it was going to damn the defendants, I’ll tell you that. When someone from the prosecution confirms that’s what they were doing- trying to help her actually get home- I’ll believe it.

You know why? Cause if it’s proven they weren’t trying to help her get home. That maybe they were still sodomizing her or trying to get oral sex from her- Nak will never be held accountable for his interview. He’ll be Long forgotten and won’t give an explanation of the interview.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52291 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:28 pm to
You started a profile exclusively for this thread and have been word vomiting the entire time
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
25058 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:28 pm to
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Interestingly, local media didn't run it but a station in Houston did...


two things can be true at once

1) local media in BR doesn’t want to have to cover this case, they do because they have to

2) Nak is a full of shite blowhard who portends to be the journalist “going after those in power” when in reality 90% of what he does amounts to going after cops for writing speeding tickets
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:29 pm to
The more times I've read it the more I'm impressed with the affidavit. Covered the requirements of the statute. Was understated and complete.

Can you, Judge, look at the timeline below?

We may be able to fill in some of the gaps using the map/ travel time.

Phone records will hopefully show more details as to location. Is the metadata on cell phone video date time and location stamped?

How long was Madison in the vehicle post rape?

Here's a timeline Fox News national compiled:

January 14, 2023


10:06 p.m. 

Video footage obtained by the East Baton Rouge Sheriff’s (EBRSO) office shows Brooks arrive at Reggie’s Bar in Tigerland, located on Bob Pettit Boulevard. 

10:18 p.m. 

Casen Carver and Kaivon Washington, both 18; Everett Lee, Washington’s 28-year-old uncle; and an unidentified 17-year-old are seen arriving at Reggie’s.

"Inside the bar, the victim and Mr. Carsen’s (sic) 17-year-old juvenile friend were seen hugging and dancing," states a EBRSO affidavit. 



JANUARY 15, 2023


1 a.m.

According to the affidavit, Brooks is seen sitting on a stool at Reggie's before she stands up to readjust her pants and "stumble[s] backwards."

"The victim got back on her feet with the help of three individuals," the document states. 

1:34 a.m.

Brooks falls while standing up from a bench near the entrance of Reggie’s bar, the affidavit states. 

The 17-year-old suspect is then allegedly seen approaching Brooks. He "removed her baseball cap," and Brooks is seen "grabbing" the teen’s hand "while getting back on her feet," the document alleges. 

1:49 a.m.

Brooks and the four men leave Reggie’s Bar. 

1:51 a.m.

Brooks and the quartet are seen "walking towards the location of their parked vehicle."

1:54 a.m. 

The group then boards the vehicle. 

2:50 a.m.

The EBRSO Traffic Division receives a call about a fatal crash on Burbank Drive, where Brooks is struck by a car. Brooks is rushed to an area hospital, but cannot be saved. 
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52291 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:30 pm to
When did we turn on Nak?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36005 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:30 pm to
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where he saw that she asked to go and they went to 3 places.


Wtf are you talking about? Nakamoto is just a reporter. He doesn’t know shite unless he’s told.

There is zero evidence that she was taken three places or where she was let out. You’re giving too much credibility to accused rapists.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18582 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:31 pm to
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Now he told her who I am too, the difference is that idgaf.

She’s going to message you on Facebook. She can’t help herself. And it’s required you post it here now.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 10:32 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88151 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:33 pm to
Like I said, I didn’t give much weight to Nak saying she was friendly inside the car. That has no bearing on what happened and her ability to consent or more importantly the accused men’s perception of her ability to consent which they already implicated themselves. I do think they were actually attempting to bring her where she wanted. Both can be true.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38122 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:34 pm to
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you can’t handle nuance to a situation like this


You’re about as nuanced as BLM, bud. If you weren’t so dedicated I’d say you’re just trolling and trying to rile people up. But you seem more devoted than the regular troll.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88151 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:34 pm to
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He doesn’t know shite unless he’s told. There is zero evidence that she was taken three places or where she was let out. You’re giving too much credibility to accused rapists.
He wasn’t told this. He saw it. That’s kind of an important difference yes?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88151 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:36 pm to
Okay. Feel free to move on from posting about me now that you got that out of your system.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49074 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:36 pm to
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Now he's got his panties in a bunch... didn't say anything negative about her kids so he can frick off.


You got your sassy boots on tonight.
I'm gonna remember this.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 10:38 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88151 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:37 pm to
You’re enjoying it a little aren’t you? Always love some drama.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:39 pm to
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The more times I've read it the more I'm impressed with the affidavit. Covered the requirements of the statute. Was understated and complete.


Agree.

Are you really a reporter?
Posted by redstickrick
Laffy, La
Member since May 2019
474 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:42 pm to
One thing I think we missed in this thread is the asking 5 times for consent. Like just imagine having to ask 5 times and thinking that this girl actually wants to have sex regardless of what she said the 5th time.

"Wanna bang? Wanna smash in my buddies backseat? Wanna sex? Wanna frick? Wanna do it?

I can barely say that 5 different ways, pretty good indicated she doesnt want to.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 10:45 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144262 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:43 pm to
Mikel hasn’t been the most bashful person on this site.
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