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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:44 pm to
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Heyyyy now I'm nice to errybody. But Flu knows he done fricked up. He's too sassy tonight to apologize for it though.


this makes all of you involved in this FB shite look like teenaged girls more concerned with your clique bullshite than the deceased
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 10:46 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88151 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:45 pm to
It was talked about from a few different angles. First, just like you said that it sounds like he knew she was out of it and wanted to make absolutely sure she wouldn’t put up a fight. Second, I think it came from Carver’s statement. He probably told the story to the investigators over and over until they got everything they needed. And it contradicts Angel who said she was the one basically asking for consent to put it nicely.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49153 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:49 pm to
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Now he's got his panties in a bunch. I didn't give any personal info and didn't say anything negative about her kids so he can frick off
Hammertime gonna come back and ref this one.

Just don't talk shite to Ham and you'll be OK. Now, with Mike, that's another story. That dude will suck a dude off just to prove his dominance, so be careful.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:49 pm to
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Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:49 pm to
Among other things, yes.

The crazy LP mom that blew up the thread today shows a potential surprisingly pro-defense juror: the white travel ball-type mother of multiple boys.

This story will be a Dateline NBC episode and the subject of multiple true crime podcasts. Too many elements in play and we've already seen the international attention.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36005 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:50 pm to
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He wasn’t told this. He saw it. That’s kind of an important difference yes?


I don’t know what he saw and neither do you.

And I have no issues with you giving your opinions or theories about what may have happened.

I do have a problem with you stating your opinions, or Nakamoto’s, as fact.

Unless there is non-stop, unedited video from Reggie’s until she is let out, then there is no proof of what happened. There is just testimony and opinion.

So, when someone says she was dumped on Burbank, you are wrong to say they are wrong. You would be right to say that we don’t know that, because we don’t.

There are very few known facts in this case.
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:52 pm to
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I can barely say that 5 different ways, pretty good indicated she doesnt want to.



Or that he knew she was 'drunk drunk' and he wanted to have witnesses to her consenting in case he was later, say, charged with rape.

Then they video her saying she wants to get out of the car.

Who does that?

"See, she's healthy and alive!"

Nak saw the selective edit of all the video. Prosecutors will access ALL of it.




Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88151 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:55 pm to
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I don’t know what he saw and neither do you.
He comes out publicly and says what he saw. It holds a little more weight than an anonymous post at least. His job is at least somewhat predicated on sharing facts. I get that isn’t the standard these days nationally and apparently people have issues with his integrity but there’s no real reason to think he would lie about them going to three different addresses. As far as us seeing actual evidence being the only way to know something as fact, then we can throw out pretty much everything except the 15 second video by that standard. We wouldn’t even be able to trust the affidavit if that’s the standard since it’s also a summary of evidence viewed and it’s technically second hand information.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:56 pm to
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And it contradicts Angel who said she was the one basically asking for consent to put it nicely.


Now you’re quoting anonymous OT posters and portraying them as basically witnesses.

Weird.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88151 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 10:58 pm to
I was summarizing a conversation on a topic and basically saying she’s likely wrong. How the frick is that weird?

ETA: and whether people want to admit it or not, Angel’s had some details that we heard from other sources later even if how she shared them was questionable and when she got some corroboration she did a victory lap.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 11:02 pm
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
25058 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:02 pm to
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I was watching the fricking TV in bed after the LSU game and Mr Cracker starts messaging asking about Angel. 10 minutes later she's blowing up the FB messages because he's talking about her kids here.


how is this a defense to anything I said
Posted by HodsonTiger13
Member since Jan 2023
737 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:03 pm to
They gave Nak access to the video as an exclusive. He did say, "She's an adult...allowed to vote..." so he took up their 'spin' on events.

Here's the author of the affidavit - second from left - Tariq Mokdaf:

LINK

Would the DA's office help him 'word' that affidavit so expertly? High profile case.

(Deputy's name is North African Arabic in origin.)

Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46886 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:04 pm to
She is “sharing” stuff that the defendants and their lawyers are putting out. That doesn’t prove any of it is factual

Madi can’t argue against it so they can just keep saying whatever they want and deem it as factual amongst themselves for now.
Posted by DVA Tailgater
Bunkie
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:05 pm to
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Madi can’t argue against it so they can just keep saying whatever they want and deem it as factual amongst themselves for now


Even when it contradicts their original recollections. And people buy it!
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88151 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:06 pm to
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She is “sharing” stuff that the defendants and their lawyers are putting out. That doesn’t prove any of it is factual
Nope. Just that there’s some corroboration.
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Madi can’t argue against it so they can just keep saying whatever they want and deem it as factual amongst themselves for now.
Yep. I made pretty much the same comment earlier in the thread. That her being unable to give her side of things is beneficial to them.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36005 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:07 pm to
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He comes out publicly and says what he saw. It holds a little more weight than an anonymous post at least. His job is at least somewhat predicated on sharing facts.


Because he only saw what he was allowed to see.

This has nothing to do with his credibility. I have no reason to think he is lying. But watching snippets of edited or incomplete video only allows a person knowledge of what was seen in that exact moment.

Or what was thought to have been seen. People have their own biases.

He can’t know what happened after or before (or during, if there were missing sections)

Words have meaning. Facts and proof are not opinion and theory.

“Nak said” or “the suspect said” are not precursors to factual statements. They are precursors to alleged events.


Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88151 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:09 pm to
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I have no reason to think he is lying. But watching snippets of edited or incomplete video only allows a person knowledge of what was seen in that exact moment.
I said it already… I have no idea how you would manipulate them bringing her to 3 different places she asked to be. Can you?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36005 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:10 pm to
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Angel’s had some details that we heard from other sources


Translation: She heard some rumors and then other people heard some similar rumors.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:12 pm to
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The crazy LP mom that blew up the thread today shows a potential surprisingly pro-defense juror: the white travel ball-type mother of multiple boys.


Strong personalities like that usually show themselves in voir dire. They can’t help it. And because of that, they don’t usually make the jury.

Judges will be inclined to grant cause challenges because a shite stirrer on the jury is a pain in the arse.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46886 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:12 pm to
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Just that there’s some corroboration.


Circulating spin amongst their side isn’t corroboration
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