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re: Depression sucks. Had another high school friend commit suicide.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:23 am to supadave3
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:23 am to supadave3
I know her husband. He was the one who found her while the daughter was out at a movie or something. Great guy. I hate he is having to go through this shite.
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:46 am to CootKilla
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Life is rough.
Life is rough, but I am starting to believe that my generation (I am 42) and the ones that followed are losing the ability to cope with stress and hard times. I agree that depression is a mf'r.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:58 am to Kracka
I'm not sure every is talking about the same suicide.. Some of the details don't match the one I know of.
initials not MD and daughter was only 3 and not at a movie.
no one can really understand depression unless they truly go through it. Its not like being depressed when you lose your dog or close relative. Its a deep sickness that obviously clogs your judgment about life. Most of them hide it and its hard to tell the signs until its too late. If you would have known this person you would understand that without this sickness they would never ever do this to their child. No drugs, no bullying, money not an issue, etc.. Not you average case here.
initials not MD and daughter was only 3 and not at a movie.
no one can really understand depression unless they truly go through it. Its not like being depressed when you lose your dog or close relative. Its a deep sickness that obviously clogs your judgment about life. Most of them hide it and its hard to tell the signs until its too late. If you would have known this person you would understand that without this sickness they would never ever do this to their child. No drugs, no bullying, money not an issue, etc.. Not you average case here.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 8:59 am to CootKilla
sucks man. burried my best friend from hs almost ten years ago from sucidie. another good friend on my 26th birthday.
t&p to the family
t&p to the family
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:21 am to bayouvette
Yepp. This doesn't fit the mold. I know her husband and he is a really nice guy. I cried my whole way home from work yesterday.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 9:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
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In reality, suicide is the greater burden on those left behind.
It is, I don't think this is even up for debate in this or any thread in the past related to suicide.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:29 am to saint tiger225
21 dead in a year. Pls explain how you met them, the context? How did they die?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:33 am to OKellsBells
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Losing someone to suicide is so difficult to rationalize.
It is. Even if they leave behind an explanation. My brother left notes for my parents and his wife and kids individually. And still to this day, I am just confused as to why he chose that route.
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It is similar to mourning the murderer of a loved one at first; is extremely confusing and traumatic to the family. It takes time to understand.
I have said this a few times when talking to people about my brothers suicide. That I wished most of the time that he had gotten murdered, at least I could somewhat rest knowing that there was some clear reason for him dying. My mind could somehow rationalize that better. It sounds really fricked up when I hear myself saying that, but it just makes more sense to me.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 10:41 am to CootKilla
Not directed at the OP specifically, but trying to understand why someone would take their life is almost impossible. A writer named David Foster Wallace once wrote on of the best descriptions of suicide I have ever read mainly b/c he had experienced it himself. Sadly, he also eventually ended his own life.
-David Foster Wallace
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"The so-called ‘psychotically depressed’ person who tries to kill herself doesn’t do so out of quote ‘hopelessness’ or any abstract conviction that life’s assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire’s flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It’s not desiring the fall; it’s terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling ‘Don’t!’ and ‘Hang on!’, can understand the jump. Not really. You’d have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling."
-David Foster Wallace
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:03 am to supadave3
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Were her initials MD?
No, not who I am talking about.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:10 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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What has changed from the past 20 years
The biggest change has been that people are now more aware of those who commit suicide. Suicide has always been a problem.
We lost a high school classmate a few weeks ago to suicide. It was within a week of our 30 year reunion.
Unfortunately, he's not the first person I've known to commit suicide.
You can never understand someone else's demons and sometimes the demons win. When you're in that situation, you cannot see a way out. It's easy for us to say, ask for help and reach out. But for those so lost in whatever their demons are, there is no asking for help. There is no understanding of what is happening and why it's happening to you.
I've worked with both those who attempted suicide and the families of those who completed suicide. Nearly everyone always says, why didn't they tell me, I would have helped. Those who attempted will almost always say they didn't want to be a bigger burden and truly thought that this was the best solution for their family.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:13 am to CootKilla
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Were her initials
KK?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:15 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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So I guess the terrorists that blow themselves up and kill innocent people can be classified in this mental ill group also I mean it is suicide after all.
Actually, this is not suicide in the same we are seeing it in the OP's case. Suicide bombers are sacrificing themselves and becoming martyrs to the cause. Their true motivation is harm and fear in others. Suicides like in the OP's case are about ending their own pain and torment and saving others.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:17 am to SMD
If her initials are KCK she was gorgeous. Just saw it on FB this morning.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:21 am to FLBooGoTigs1
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If they realize they are a burden why don't they get help?
When you are thinking rationally, this is an obvious choice. However, those contemplating suicide are typically not thinking logically and rationally. They don't want to be a burden. Their thought process is that by existing they are a burden. Therefore, ceasing to exist also ends the burden.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 11:29 am
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:27 am to Kracka
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That I wished most of the time that he had gotten murdered, at least I could somewhat rest knowing that there was some clear reason for him dying. My mind could somehow rationalize that better.
It's also easier to hate the person who murdered your family member and took them away from you. Much more difficult to hate the person who took your family member away when you love them so much.
Sorry for your loss.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:36 am to NoHoTiger
And to further that, no one knows how many times they may have tried to get help. As with any other disease, there is no magic therapy or pills that works on everyone. So with every failed treatment the feeling of hopelessness begins to drag them down even further. The depressed know that suicide is often viewed as a selfish act, and some of them may even feel that way themselves, so having suicidal thoughts just reinforces the hopeless/worthless feeling that they are already feeling.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:44 am to NoHoTiger
Thank you Noho for the explanation I guess I can't understand the torment of mental illness but I just see the pain left behind. Just sucks when you have to see young siblings and parents that return home to a bed that will never be filled again by a person that was loved.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:48 am to Kracka
Kracka that sounds rough what you have gone through. You are one of the siblings i was referring too that will carry this for your entire lifetime. Sorry for your lost 
Posted on 7/26/17 at 11:51 am to SMD
Yes
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