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re: Delta Wave coming to and end in Louisiana: Rt value trending down 8/5 UPDATE
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:48 pm to moneyg
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:48 pm to moneyg
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When do you think things were "opened up?"
Relative to this summer's wave, you might say:
May 5, 2021: state eases mask mandate ( WAFB);
May 14, 2021: New Orleans ended mask mandate ( WWNO and City's website); and
May 26, 2021: most statewide mask mandates ended ( KSLA and The Advocate).
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:43 am to Korkstand
So far reoccurring is pretty slim to none.
What happened to a guy that works for me was his "second" round he rested positive to the flu as well. His doc tested him for the flu. He got better and went on his way.
So was it a false positive for the coronavirus and the flu that got him? This was last week.
What happened to a guy that works for me was his "second" round he rested positive to the flu as well. His doc tested him for the flu. He got better and went on his way.
So was it a false positive for the coronavirus and the flu that got him? This was last week.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:40 am to Capt ST
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So we still have no good data on what those that have gotten the virus should do? I’m still trying to understand how the mRNA vaccine has a better efficacy than having fought off the actual live virus.
Not really. However, the Israeli study, in spite of the a Demographic quirk, still seems to illustrate that natural immunity (especially in regards to the Delta variant), is equal to the vaccine (if not better).
Anecdotal information from good friends in the medical community (plus supposed doctors and medical professionals on TD), have pretty much confirmed that stance. Reinfection rates are quite small (with some not having seen any reinfections at all).
Rand Paul mentioned the aspect of natural immunity as definitely having merit. He went on to say that the CDC seems to be ignoring it, either intentionally or through incompetence. However, other than the number of people that have definitely been diagnosed as having COVID (35 million), no hard data was presented in terms of reinfection rates.
The big question is, should you still get the vaccine if you have had COVID?
Crazy4LSU really put forth some solid reasoning as to why it should be considered.
I think Fun bunch also noted the view of the NIH supporting that as well (I personally don’t trust the NIH at this point, but that’s me).
Here is my really small, informal study.
Out of all of my extended friends and family, I have been told about exactly 5 “reinfections.”
Of those, 4 got the vaccine, the other didn’t.
TLDR
If you have had COVID, the data does not support getting the vaccine.
If you haven’t had COVID, the data suggests that you should strongly consider getting it.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:22 am to jimmy the leg
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Rand Paul mentioned the aspect of natural immunity as definitely having merit. He went on to say that the CDC seems to be ignoring it, either intentionally or through incompetence.
I know which one my money is on.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:28 pm to lsuhunt555
Louisiana's Rt down to 1.31.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:35 pm to bbap
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Louisiana's Rt down to 1.31.
Amazing how quickly these mandates work. Simply amazing. Almost unbelievable.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:38 pm to lsupride87
You bullying?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:42 pm to bbap
Can we get the guy that was scribbling in a notebook from the "two weeks behind Italy" stage to come back for this thread?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:42 pm to jimmy the leg
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IIRC, Israel said that reinfection rates were extremely low (1%?)
As such, their data is essentially either vaccinated (40%) or unvaccinated (59%).
So in essence, 5% of the population is responsible for 59% of the caseload.
How does that equate to Louisiana?
I think it's a faulty assumtion that those infected (5%) are a separate group.
They probably split pretty close to the general population among the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:43 pm to bbap
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Louisiana's Rt down to 1.31
Last time it was 1.31 was 6/26. 17 days later (7/14) was the peak, and we're back to 1.31 21 days after the peak.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 2:43 pm to Korkstand
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It's possible that this depends on how "bad" you had it, or how sick you got. My BIL had it last year with mild to no symptoms, then he got it again last month and spent a week in the hospital.
He probably didn't get it the first time.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 5:34 pm to LSUGUMBO
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Last time it was 1.31 was 6/26. 17 days later (7/14) was the peak, and we're back to 1.31 21 days after the peak.
What site are you using to get more precise data?
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:11 pm to moneyg
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I think it's a faulty assumtion that those infected (5%) are a separate group.
Maybe I misunderstood.
My take was that since 90 % of Israel is vaccinated, and roughly 5% had COVID, that is roughly 95% of their population. That leaves 5% give or take that is unvaccinated. 59% of the cases are by those unvaccinated.
So 5% of the population = 59% of the cases?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:40 pm to jimmy the leg
It was a giant percentage of vaccinated who got China Virus in Israel, far less severe but still infected.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:51 pm to lsupride87
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I would expect to see hospitalizations to be about 3-5 days behind the Rt value
You may have been a couple of days off on that one, brother.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:31 pm to CitizenK
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It was a giant percentage of vaccinated who got China Virus in Israel, far less severe but still infected.
Yes, 36% give or take.
Soooooooo
90% of the population accounts for 36% of the infections.
Is it the 99% claimed here - no (I think those #’s are absolute bullshite fwiw).
It does show that breakthrough infections are occurring much more than previously reported.
However, it still illustrates that the vaccine is quite effective against the variant.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:33 pm to jimmy the leg
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quite effective against the variant.
Which variant?
And what test is there for "the variant"?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:35 pm to jimmy the leg
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Is it the 99% claimed here - no (I think those #’s are absolute bullshite fwiw). It does show that breakthrough infections are occurring much more than previously reported. However, it still illustrates that the vaccine is quite effective against the variant.
Stop the presses........we agree
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:35 pm to jimmy the leg
i’d bet there are more breakthrough cases than reported. if you got vaccinated, the symptoms are minimal, why would you got get tested for COVID?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:46 pm to lsupride87
Some good Rt news from several states
“There is some evidence that the delta wave is contracting in some of the early outbreak states in the south, with the Rt falling below 1.0; and in other states where the epidemic is still expanding, the rate of that expansion has slowed with the Rt declining. “
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“There is some evidence that the delta wave is contracting in some of the early outbreak states in the south, with the Rt falling below 1.0; and in other states where the epidemic is still expanding, the rate of that expansion has slowed with the Rt declining. “
LINK
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