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re: Deepwater Horizon/BP Oil Spill
Posted on 11/9/18 at 7:21 am to DaBike
Posted on 11/9/18 at 7:21 am to DaBike
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Using this logic BP had nothing to do with the Deepwater Horizon explosion or spill.
Not what I said. I said BP didn’t do shite for the clean up. They contracted SEACOR/OBrien to organize the clean up operations and logistics. SEACOR/Obrien were in charge and hired all the 1000’s of subs. BP paid the bills. BP isn’t in the oil spill clean up business. They hire the environmental professionals to do that.
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BP contracted/subbed Transocean, Halliburton and a number of other companies to drill and cement the well. BP only had about 5 employees even on the Horizon. Transocena, Halliburton and other service companies make a lot of money all over the world doing this for oil companies.
Thanks. I’m aware of who was working for who and who the rig was owned by. That has nothing to do with what I said.
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Obrien’s was one of hundreds maybe a few thousand companies hired to work the response.
O’Brien’s was the HNIC. They hired all the 1000 of subs that hired more subs that hired more subs and so on.
That’s my point. That’s how so many spillionaires were born. One task may have had 5 different subs adding their fees on top and they all billed each other until it got up the chain to BP via O’Brien’s. So let’s say they needed to rent a boat. The boat owner may have charged Jack White $1000 a day. Jack White rented the boat to John Smith for $2000 a day, John Smith turned around and rented the same boat to ES&H for $3000 a day, then ES&H rented the boat to O’Brien’s for $4000 a day then O’Brien’s rented the boat to BP for $5000 a day.
That’s just one very small example of what was going on and everyone was getting paid.
Eta. Also, if you didn’t have a MSA or wasn’t on BP or SEACOR/O’Brien’s vendors list and couldn’t get on then you had to go through somone who was and that was a big reason prices were getting jacked up and going through so many channels.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 7:30 am
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 7:37 am to Roll Tide Ravens
I worked with and was buddies with one of the roughnecks that died in that accident. Karl Dale Kleppinger was a roughneck that died on the Deepwater Horizon. Karl and I were roustabouts on the same crew on the Shell Auger TLP offshore Drilling/Producrion Rig from 1998-2000. Karl was a real good dude an avid hunter - fisherman and a big Ole Miss fan. He was also a vet from the first gulf war serving as an infantryman in the National Guard. When I names came out of the victims I was shocked to see Karl’s name. BP really fricked that whole situation up bad.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 7:53 am to moester75
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Shell Auger TLP offshore Drilling/Producrion Rig from 1998-2000
I worked on Auger during this same time period. You were with H&P?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:01 am to redstick13
Thanks, I will.
Any a deep water is still crippled, I talked to one of my buddies I used to work with who is still at big blue and he said it is continually gotten worse since I have left. When I was there the field crew was running close to 40 head it is now down the 12. And to top it off contract prices are still in the dirt.
Any a deep water is still crippled, I talked to one of my buddies I used to work with who is still at big blue and he said it is continually gotten worse since I have left. When I was there the field crew was running close to 40 head it is now down the 12. And to top it off contract prices are still in the dirt.
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 8:02 am
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:37 am to Roll Tide Ravens
A friend's brother was on DH when it happened but made it off thankfully.
I was a safety consultant for Chevron on the first rig Transocean commissioned after the disaster. We were off the coast of Angola, Africa. Brand new rig, latest and greatest equipment. The rig is named The Honor, in honor of the 11 that lost their lives.
Every year on April 20th, we held a memorial service on the rig. At the exact time of the explosion a bell was tolled 11 times, the names read, and 11 wreaths dropped into the sea. It was always a very moving ceremony.
When you arrived on the rig and walked down the stairs from the heliport, the first thing that greeting you was a huge plaque with a description of the incident and a list of the names of the victims. A gold bell hung above it.
I was a safety consultant for Chevron on the first rig Transocean commissioned after the disaster. We were off the coast of Angola, Africa. Brand new rig, latest and greatest equipment. The rig is named The Honor, in honor of the 11 that lost their lives.
Every year on April 20th, we held a memorial service on the rig. At the exact time of the explosion a bell was tolled 11 times, the names read, and 11 wreaths dropped into the sea. It was always a very moving ceremony.
When you arrived on the rig and walked down the stairs from the heliport, the first thing that greeting you was a huge plaque with a description of the incident and a list of the names of the victims. A gold bell hung above it.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 9:45 am to ticklechain
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ticklechain
Thanks, yep, that was it.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 10:49 am to Kingpenm3
That sounds like the craziest fishing trip ever. I can’t find the video that the guy took. I wonder if it was taken down completely.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 11:43 am to redstick13
My goal was to sell one of those jobs but we were charging 12k a day for that tool in 2012. I did not get it done. 
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:01 pm to tgrbaitn08
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That’s my point. That’s how so many spillionaires were born. One task may have had 5 different subs adding their fees on top and they all billed each other until it got up the chain to BP via O’Brien’s. So let’s say they needed to rent a boat. The boat owner may have charged Jack White $1000 a day. Jack White rented the boat to John Smith for $2000 a day, John Smith turned around and rented the same boat to ES&H for $3000 a day, then ES&H rented the boat to O’Brien’s for $4000 a day then O’Brien’s rented the boat to BP for $5000 a day.
All this. This is actually how my career started. I audited about 1 bil of these payments done through MSRC and another few hundred mil done by ES&H. Now have done cost control/auditing on nerely every major incident since.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:16 pm to deNYEd
Hook up an OT engineering baw with a job?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:19 pm to deNYEd
That’s actually how a lot of companies kept the doors open that were on the verge of closing down at that time. 2008 and 2009 were brutal years. The oil spill saved a lot of them.
It was also the cash cow that started a lot of new companies.
It was also the cash cow that started a lot of new companies.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:23 pm to Rendevoustavern
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Which is sad because I knew a number of others, specifically on the coast, that were impacted severely and only got minimal payouts
Anyone severely impacted on the cast who received a minimal impact must be a moron.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:27 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
I had to do a P&ID walk down, on that rig, 2 weeks prior to that incident. I was never formally introduced to the crew but saw them from time to time in passing.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:44 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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My goal was to sell one of those jobs but we were charging 12k a day for that tool in 2012. I did not get it done.
Just for the SAGR sensor? Nobody is seeing those type of margins right now.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:49 pm to redstick13
When was the cutoff date to file?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:53 pm to slackster
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Anyone severely impacted on the cast who received a minimal impact must be a moron
It depends on how they settled and under which program. Some did foolishly settle for relatively little under the GCCF. Those under the later DWH program were bound by whatever the calculations came out to.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:01 pm to Havoc
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It depends on how they settled and under which program. Some did foolishly settle for relatively little under the GCCF. Those under the later DWH program were bound by whatever the calculations came out to.
No one was required to be a part of the class. If you got screwed, you basically had piss poor representation, or no representation at all.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:25 pm to redstick13
Yep 12k a day just for it. 32 banks of gamma for geology just to get more confused as to where to drill
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:31 pm to slackster
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No one was required to be a part of the class. If you got screwed, you basically had piss poor representation, or no representation at all.
Perhaps. However, the deadline was to Opt Out of the class was November 1, 2012...AFTER that deadline passed and the agreement was approved, BP launched a legal blitzkrieg attacking the settlement on many grounds. They were successful on one that ended up drastically reducing the compensation amounts in many cases. Again, after it was too late to opt out.
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