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re: Deepfakes drama on YouTube/twitch
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:24 am to frequent flyer
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:24 am to frequent flyer
It was sexual/nudity.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:24 am to Jon Ham
A global EMP would do humanity a huge favor
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:25 am to frequent flyer
quote:
What were the deepfakes doing? Were they doing something sexual? Was it something bad? Or was this just one of them making a joke?
Either way consent is needed. But I can't really join the pitchfork mob without knowing what is going on here.
The guy paid for deepfake porn videos where the female streamers' faces were superimposed into the porn.
EDIT: He didn't actually buy videos of the streamers specifically. He was a paying member of a website that specializes in deepfake porn, some of which included some of his fellow streamers. I guess the difference matters.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 8:29 am
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:26 am to jdd48
quote:
The guy paid for deepfake porn videos where the female streamers' faces were superimposed into the porn.
Okay that's really bad.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:26 am to Jon Ham
quote:
Show me a man who hasn’t had sexual thoughts about attractive women in their life.
I think the issue is that you were limited by your own thoughts. Now you get to see the thoughts of everyone manifested on the screen.
There are some really fricked up people out there. I wouldn't want my wife or kids to be depicted in some sick motherfricker's fantasy come to virtual life.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 8:27 am
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:30 am to Korkstand
quote:
What if there was a deepfake of you sucking a dick?
lol that would be gross AF but I wouldn’t cry about it.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:30 am to Jon Ham
quote:I think it's pretty well-established and agreed upon that we are not free to profit from someone else's likeness.
that’s just one of the downfalls of freedom and technology that we have to accept unless we want to limit freedom and/or technology
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:31 am to chryso
quote:
Wait, you aren't Jon Ham?
He's Jon Ham.
You're thinking of the famous actor Jon Hamm. Different guy altogether.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:32 am to Korkstand
quote:
I think it's pretty well-established and agreed upon that we are not free to profit from someone else's likeness.
Ok, people can still create and share these things without profiting from it.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:32 am to Jon Ham
quote:Maybe you wouldn't literally cry but I believe you would be pretty mad and have something to say about it if it had any impact on your career or public image.
lol that would be gross AF but I wouldn’t cry about it.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:32 am to Jon Ham
quote:
YouTube/twitch about a streamer getting caught on stream looking at purchased deep fakes of two of his friends (girls) who are also streamers
What the frick does any of this mean
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:35 am to In The Know
I'm torn on this. Part of me doesn't think it's a huge deal, and part of me completely gets why they'd be offended (although equating it to being physically raped/assaulted is a stretch IMO).
But either way, like someone said this is something that will become a thing VERY soon. There will be pics and videos out there of all kinds of people doing shite that is faked and they didn't really do. And it will be indistinguishable from reality. I can definitely see how that could easily become a big problem.
But either way, like someone said this is something that will become a thing VERY soon. There will be pics and videos out there of all kinds of people doing shite that is faked and they didn't really do. And it will be indistinguishable from reality. I can definitely see how that could easily become a big problem.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:35 am to In The Know
quote:
In The Know
quote:
What the frick does any of this mean
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:36 am to In The Know
quote:
What the frick does any of this mean
Jesus this board really has turned into boomerville.
TRANSLATION: A guy who makes videos and publishes them online was caught purchasing fake nude/sex videos and/or photos of two of his friends (girls) who also post videos online. All three have a relatively large following. One of the girls was outraged/devastated over it. The guy is getting blasted over it as if he committed a reprehensible crime. My question is whether the amount outrage is rational/proportional to the situation.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:38 am to CocomoLSU
quote:
But either way, like someone said this is something that will become a thing VERY soon. There will be pics and videos out there of all kinds of people doing shite that is faked and they didn't really do. And it will be indistinguishable from reality. I can definitely see how that could easily become a big problem.
It's here now actually, and it's not just video. AI is good enough now that audio deepfakes can be made as well. Imagine being accused of saying something, being "on tape" saying it, but it's a deepfake and not actually you saying it.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:40 am to Jon Ham
They're trying to build a prison,
Following the rights movements
You clamped on with your iron fists,
Drugs became conveniently
Available for all the kids,
Following the rights movements
You clamped on with your iron fists,
Drugs became conveniently
Available for all the kids,
I buy my crack, my smack, my b****,
Right here in Hollywood,
Nearly 2 million Americans are incarcerated
In the prison system,
Prison system of the U.S.
They're trying to build a prison,
Another prison system.
Minor drug offenders fill your prisons
You don't even flinch
All our taxes paying for your wars
Against the new non-rich,
Minor drug offenders fill your prisons
You don't even flinch
All our taxes paying for your wars
Against the new non-rich,
I buy my crack, my smack, my b****,
Right here in Hollywood,
The percentage of Americans in the prison system
Prison system, has doubled since 1985,
They're trying to build a prison,
Another prison system. (for you and me to live in)
They're trying to build a prison,
For you and me,
All research and successful drug policy show
That treatment should be increased,
And law enforcement decreased,
While abolishing mandatory minimum sentences.
Utilizing drugs to pay for secret wars around the world,
Drugs are now your global policy,
Now you police the globe,
I buy my crack, my smack, my b****,
Right here in Hollywood,
Drug money is used to rig elections,
And train brutal corporate sponsored
Dictators around the world.
They're trying to build a prison,
For you and me
Following the rights movements
You clamped on with your iron fists,
Drugs became conveniently
Available for all the kids,
Following the rights movements
You clamped on with your iron fists,
Drugs became conveniently
Available for all the kids,
I buy my crack, my smack, my b****,
Right here in Hollywood,
Nearly 2 million Americans are incarcerated
In the prison system,
Prison system of the U.S.
They're trying to build a prison,
Another prison system.
Minor drug offenders fill your prisons
You don't even flinch
All our taxes paying for your wars
Against the new non-rich,
Minor drug offenders fill your prisons
You don't even flinch
All our taxes paying for your wars
Against the new non-rich,
I buy my crack, my smack, my b****,
Right here in Hollywood,
The percentage of Americans in the prison system
Prison system, has doubled since 1985,
They're trying to build a prison,
Another prison system. (for you and me to live in)
They're trying to build a prison,
For you and me,
All research and successful drug policy show
That treatment should be increased,
And law enforcement decreased,
While abolishing mandatory minimum sentences.
Utilizing drugs to pay for secret wars around the world,
Drugs are now your global policy,
Now you police the globe,
I buy my crack, my smack, my b****,
Right here in Hollywood,
Drug money is used to rig elections,
And train brutal corporate sponsored
Dictators around the world.
They're trying to build a prison,
For you and me
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:40 am to Korkstand
quote:
believe you would be pretty mad and have something to say about it if it had any impact on your career or public image.
By the time something like that happened to me it would be happening to a ton of people and it wouldn’t be a “big deal” anymore.
These internet “celebrities” are just on the cutting edge of this. Their attractiveness and popularity has allowed them a great and profitable life, but they have put themselves in the cross hairs for this type of activity. To me it’s like “yeah, that sucks, but it sort of comes with the territory now.” Fake celeb nudes have been around forever, it’s just that the technology has gotten much better.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:42 am to BottomlandBrew
quote:
I can't imagine how bad of a problem this is going to be in the very near future.
It’ll be the next “meme generator”. Select your porn clip, upload a face, ???, profit.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:43 am to Jon Ham
Super creepy.
If he posts them on the net, likely a crime.
If he posts them on the net, likely a crime.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:46 am to jdd48
quote:
It's here now actually, and it's not just video. AI is good enough now that audio deepfakes can be made as well. Imagine being accused of saying something, being "on tape" saying it, but it's a deepfake and not actually you saying it.
Right. The implications of it are fairly scary. We think politics are stupid now, just wait until there are fake DWI videos out there of opponents. Or shite, fake murder/pedo videos of your opponents. All it takes is something like that coming out and enough people will buy into it and believe it. The resulting story of it being not real won't even matter.
And the flip side is true too. shite, the White House can simply come out and say that all those Hunter videos were AI deepfakes.
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