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Posted on 8/21/25 at 6:29 am to Lake08
life without parole... the death penalty is actually MORE expensive
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:01 am to AllbyMyRelf
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All felonies should get death penalty
Like third offense marijuana possession?
Or god forbid you have weed in two separate plastic bags and own a scale?
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:11 am to Lake08
We send good citizens off to fight wars for us in order to combat threats to society.
Some of those innocent young people get their excellent life prospects snuffed out early because it has been agreed by societies across time, religions and cultures that it is better to risk losing a few good men/women than to allow evil to perceive it can go unchecked.
If someone is convicted of committing an irreversible evil act on another, then to me it is acceptable after a trial to remove them permanently from society.
Even if, inevitably, we lose a few innocent people to this process, the death penalty is an important benchmark in rejecting a deed. Both for the victim's family and society as a whole.
If the convicted person has had a religious awakening while awaiting their earthly fate, then shouldn't they be first in line to agree to accept the laws of society and rely on better prospects after meeting their justice here?
Some of those innocent young people get their excellent life prospects snuffed out early because it has been agreed by societies across time, religions and cultures that it is better to risk losing a few good men/women than to allow evil to perceive it can go unchecked.
If someone is convicted of committing an irreversible evil act on another, then to me it is acceptable after a trial to remove them permanently from society.
Even if, inevitably, we lose a few innocent people to this process, the death penalty is an important benchmark in rejecting a deed. Both for the victim's family and society as a whole.
If the convicted person has had a religious awakening while awaiting their earthly fate, then shouldn't they be first in line to agree to accept the laws of society and rely on better prospects after meeting their justice here?
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:57 am to LCA131
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No, I can not.
But 99.999% of murder victims were INNOCENT, and where does the math work for THEM?? Their lives were taken with NO evidence, NO judge, NO jury, and NO appeals.
You want math? Balance THAT equation
So you are good with killing innocent people yourself?
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:59 am to Lake08
I'd choose death if I could kill them. Otherwise, I'm 50/50 and likely depends on the criminal and how the crime went down.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:08 am to Robin Masters
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The older I get the less patience I have with felonious recidivism. At a certain point people are beyond hope so I can see the logic behind just putting them down like a dog that bites.
I guess we just pay to keep them in prison because we consider ourselves to be more civilized and empathetic than what is required to face the reality that these people are better dead than alive
This.
The debate about the death penalty is not as simple as some make it out to be.
My position on the OP, as it is asked, is "no".
Am I against death penalty? Not at all.
Career crimimals, who have committed several violent felonies cannot be rehabilitated. Sorry, but it serves us no good to keep housing them.
A violent murderer who was caught in the act, and who did the crime without even a shred of doubt (video footage, was apprehended at the very moment, was done in a public space with many witnesses, etc) then yes, I am pro-death penalty.
If there is any shred of doubt and the PD/AG just wanted closure to a case, which happens more than we like to admit, then no.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:08 am to Lake08
Death.
Prisoners have a lot more freedoms than people think. They get people to send money to their accounts to buy food, watch tv, make phone calls, and i don't think hard labor is allowed anymore. Sure some get raped or shanked but I don't think its as bad as we all think it is.
Prisoners have a lot more freedoms than people think. They get people to send money to their accounts to buy food, watch tv, make phone calls, and i don't think hard labor is allowed anymore. Sure some get raped or shanked but I don't think its as bad as we all think it is.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:12 am to Lake08
Death because there is a chance they might get out. Then I have to do something about it.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:41 am to Chuck Barris
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This is just flat out false. A good number of people saved from the death penalty hadn't committed any crime whatsoever
There are people in here advocating that Life in Prison is worse, are you OK with that?
Unfortunately, it is a fact that the wrong person is convicted at times. This has been true for all of humanity.
If you want to live in a civilized society, there are trade offs.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:47 am to Lake08
My son was murdered and initially we wanted the death penalty but after thinking about it we figured rot in jail was worse than the death penalty.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:56 am to Lake08
Drop them in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and make them swim to California via the Pacific Ocean with no life raft.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 8:57 am to Topwater Trout
quote:This.
Prisoners have a lot more freedoms than people think. They get people to send money to their accounts to buy food, watch tv, make phone calls, and i don't think hard labor is allowed anymore. Sure some get raped or shanked but I don't think it’s as bad as we all think it is.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 9:09 am to LCA131
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But 99.999% of murder victims were INNOCENT
This is likely not true. A lot of murder victims are fellow gangbangers.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 9:16 am to Lake08
Life in prison is so much worse! Says the anti death penalty advocates.
But meanwhile, death row inmates desperately file appeal after appeal to avoid death. And when faced with the death penalty they often plead guilty to life in prison.
But meanwhile, death row inmates desperately file appeal after appeal to avoid death. And when faced with the death penalty they often plead guilty to life in prison.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 9:21 am to chRxis
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life without parole... the death penalty is actually MORE expensive
Certainly doesn’t have to be
Posted on 8/21/25 at 9:45 am to Lake08
Life in prison.
Posted on 8/21/25 at 10:59 am to Lake08
When I was young, a friend's younger brother was befriended, then kidnapped and killed by a piece of shite scum. Instead of death, he got life in prision. Every so many years the family has to go to (or write) the parole board to state how they wish him to not be paroled.
I haven't had to go through this with a family member so I can only go with what he and his family have said and gone through. Just the knowing that the murderer still draws breath, regardless of the quality of the breath, can be -for some of those who were close to the victim- a constant salting of the wound. There can be a certain sense of closure which comes from the ultimate finality of some piece of shite like that being put to death which does not come from their receiving a life sentence, even one without a possibility of ever being paroled.
I would be one of those people.
I haven't had to go through this with a family member so I can only go with what he and his family have said and gone through. Just the knowing that the murderer still draws breath, regardless of the quality of the breath, can be -for some of those who were close to the victim- a constant salting of the wound. There can be a certain sense of closure which comes from the ultimate finality of some piece of shite like that being put to death which does not come from their receiving a life sentence, even one without a possibility of ever being paroled.
I would be one of those people.
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 11:04 am
Posted on 8/21/25 at 12:03 pm to chRxis
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life without parole... the death penalty is actually MORE expensive
About $34.99 at your local store.
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