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re: Darwin’s Doubt: the mathematical problem of evolution and DNA
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:06 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:06 pm to WestCoastAg
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then what does?
Simulation theory has much better odds than evolution theory.
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:17 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Would you look at that! Urban birds have evolved just since COVID:
That does not address the issue in the slightest. Pretty much everyone agrees that evolution can occur gradually or in a short time due to a handy saltation. That is not what the argument is about, which is rather, complex systems in the body that are made of things that would be of no use without the other things. These require several changes to come about at the same time for no reason other than chance. That is where the odds multiply astronomically.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:24 pm to Barbellthor
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Barbellthor
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:38 pm to Jimbeaux
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Maybe you should look again. The fossil record emphatically does NOT show that. The gaps are bigger than the one in Michael Strahan’s front teeth.
That’s part of Myers very detailed argument. The majority of species groups seem to appear out of nowhere in the fossil record, and only then start to show microevolutionary changes in a very slow and calculable process.
Are you arguing the fossil record does not show life becoming more complex with time?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:40 pm to RobbBobb
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Its just their best made up guess to fit their convoluted timeline. And a very poor one
Why is it a poor one? Why would evolution occur gradually and steadily over time?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:44 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Are you arguing the fossil record does not show life becoming more complex with time?
No, actually the opposite. That life evolved more quickly than gene mutation and natural selection can account for, especially during the Cambrian.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:44 pm to Darth_Vader
I believe everything evolved from platypussies.....uhh, platypusses......platypi?
It is a mishmash creature that has all the required parts to become anything. It is pretty obvious, really.
It is a mishmash creature that has all the required parts to become anything. It is pretty obvious, really.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:46 pm to Jimbeaux
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No, actually the opposite. That life evolved more quickly than gene mutation and natural selection can account for, especially during the Cambrian.
What evidence for you assertion are you pointing to?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:54 pm to N2cars
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How did human life form here?
Randomly!
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:05 pm to Fun Bunch
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There is no difference between "macro" and "micro" evolution
Well thats the assertion, yes. But its becoming more and more rejected by scientists.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:07 pm to Hester Carries
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But its becoming more and more rejected by scientists.
how so?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:08 pm to deltadummy
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A superior being created life, and the being sent his word to Mohammad through the Qu'ran.
We're done here, right?
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deltadummy
The name certainly checks out
All religions came from the original that was practiced by Adam, Noah, and eventually Abraham. Even the Muslims. But you knew that right?
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The Islamic holy books are the Tawrat (Torah), the Zabur (Psalms), and the Injil (Arabic for the Gospel), received by Jesus. Additionally, the Quran mentions the Scrolls of Abraham and the Scrolls of Moses
Also, science traces most histories to the Fertile Crescent
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The Fertile Crescent is believed to be the first region where settled farming emerged. Also, technological advances in the region include the development of agriculture and the use of irrigation, domestication of animals, languages, of writing, the wheel, and glass.
And its also telling that a book written 10,000 years ago pegged that Noahs Ark came to rest there, and civilization would be borne from there. Weird, aint it
Even paganism is an offshoot of the original religion. Fun fact. The word pagan was invented by Christians in the 1400s
We know that Judaism was first. Out of that came Christianity, then Catholicism, then Islam, then pagans, then Mormons, etc. But what about Hindu?
Hindu was originally a geographical term, not religious. The Muslims applied the term to the religion of the people from there. Wait? The Muslims created them, as a way of distinguishing themselves from Hindus? What a shock
Then theres Buddhism. One of the earliest evidence of this religion is written on the pillars of Ashoka, which oddly enough doesnt contain the Buddha anywhere. Ashoka converted to the religion, wrote the pillars in guess what language? Aramaic. The language that Jesus spoke. Aint that something? 300 hundred years before Jesus was born. The proponents of the new religion of Buddha, were actually ancestors who forked off from the lines of Jesus
Its fascinating if you study it for yourself, and not listen to the bias of religion professors
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:08 pm to Hester Carries
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But its becoming more and more rejected by scientists.
This is completely false.
Virtually no one that is an evolutionary biologist "rejects" this
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:10 pm to RobbBobb
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pegged that Noahs Ark came to rest there,
huh?
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came Christianity, then Catholicism
huh?
I appreciate your otherwise well thought out post, but I think you missed his point.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:12 pm to Pepe Lepew
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Seems there are a few problems with accepted science
One of the biggest problems is the lie that evolution as the origin of our species is "accepted science." This just isn't true.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:17 pm to Salmon
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Why would evolution occur gradually and steadily over time?
If evolution required exponentially explosive growth to get where it was at the beginning of documentation, then why are we now in stasis? Why would that explosion of growth have stopped, when the current climate is the best in known history for genetic transformation?
Anything born with a genetic anomaly is certainly not viewed as evolving. They are labeled as deformed. Which is why I firmly believe our planet from day 1 has been in decay, not evolving
I also cant help but notice the very proponents of evolution are also proponents of population control. Down deep they know we are devolving, and want to control access of the masses to the resources available
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:18 pm to Fun Bunch
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Fun Bunch
Still waiting on your hard proof of alien lifeforms other than the party line "mathematically there has to be life out there".
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:21 pm to Mizz-SEC
quote:Here's the problem though. No one believes this. A species is what it is it's entire life. A fish doesn't become a frog. The dog-like pakicetus didn't turn into a whale. There were many species between and it's very difficult to know the full story.
not the evolution of new species.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:22 pm to RobbBobb
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If evolution required exponentially explosive growth to get where it was at the beginning of documentation
who said it was "required"? what if that is just how it happened?
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then why are we now in stasis?
are we?
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Why would that explosion of growth have stopped, when the current climate is the best in known history for genetic transformation?
it is? has it stopped?
can you provide any data on these claims? I'd like to read some of this
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Anything born with a genetic anomaly is certainly not viewed as evolving. They are labeled as deformed.
well this isn't true at all
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I also cant help but notice the very proponents of evolution are also proponents of population control. Down deep they know we are devolving, and want to control access of the masses to the resources available
...what?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:22 pm to NorCali
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but no one knows which one because every attempt to duplicate this spontaneous formation of the actual building blocks of the polymer in a lab have utterly failed, so the key initial creation step must be accepted on "Faith", which is quite the delicious irony...
The God of the Gaps goes all the way to the beginning!
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