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Daniel Penny Trial. Verdict is in: Not Guilty!

Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:11 pm
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DANIEL PENNY VERDICT IS IN: "NOT GUILTY."

Reporting for @TheFP

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Daniel Penny trial update: the defense requested a mistrial, citing that chants of "If we don't get no justice, they don't get no peace" were audible in the courtroom.

The prosecution scoffed, saying that only the less threatening chant of "Justice for Jordan Neely" was heard.

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Major Penny update: the court just dismissed the top charge Penny is facing—second degree manslaughter. Reporting for @TheFP.




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The defense in the Daniel Penny trial just requested a mistrial. The prosecution disagreed, saying the judge should issue an Allen charge to prod the jury into a decision.

The judge has sided with the prosecution, saying he will issue "a full Allen charge." Reporting for @TheFP

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A widely shared video of a former Marine wrapping his arms around a man’s neck and restraining him in a chokehold until he died on the floor of a New York City subway car will play a key role in the trial of Daniel Penny, who is charged in the death of Jordan Neely.

Both Penny’s attorneys and those prosecuting him say they will use the four-minute video to bolster their arguments in a case that became a flashpoint in the nation’s long-standing debate over racial justice and, closer to home, the safety of the city’s subway system.

Attorneys for Penny, 26, who is white, say their client did not apply enough pressure for the hold to be deadly, while prosecutors argue he used excessive force to take the life of Neely, a 30-year-old Black man who worked as a Michael Jackson impersonator.

Jury selection begins Monday in Penny’s trial, which is expected to last six weeks. He has pleaded not guilty to charges of manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide and faces a maximum of 15 years in prison if convicted of the top charge.

The New York City chief medical examiner’s office found that Neely died from compression to his neck as a result of the chokehold, and the manner was homicide.

The May 1, 2023, killing began with Neely, who struggled with homelessness and mental illness, shouting aboard an F train in Manhattan, witnesses said. Some recalled him saying he was homeless, hungry and didn’t care whether he went to jail. Prosecutors do not dispute that Neely was acting in an aggressive manner, they said in court documents.



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Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:24 pm to
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Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21199 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:13 pm to
About 2 weeks before the election at that. Hmmnm.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452955 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:14 pm to
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About 2 weeks before the election at that. Hmmnm.


This case is much more likely to help Trump than Kamala.
Posted by caliegeaux
Booo Cheeeen
Member since Aug 2004
11670 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:14 pm to
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a 30-year-old Black man who worked as a Michael Jackson impersonator


whites can't get away with just roaming the streets killing white collar workers. this has got to end!
Posted by saturday
Pronoun (Baw)
Member since Feb 2007
7529 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:14 pm to
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Attorneys for Penny, 26, who is white, say their client did not apply enough pressure for the hold to be deadly, while prosecutors argue he used excessive force to take the life of Neely, a 30-year-old Black man who worked as a Michael Jackson impersonator.





Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20419 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:14 pm to
He'd walk if I were on that jury
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130840 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:15 pm to
The cops don't do anything, then the state attacks a private citizen when he does something.

And then people wonder why public spaces are no longer safe.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42157 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:16 pm to
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Attorneys for Penny, 26, who is white, say their client did not apply enough pressure for the hold to be deadly,
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The New York City chief medical examiner’s office found that Neely died from compression to his neck as a result of the chokehold, and the manner was homicide.


Gonna be a fun ride. I'm not sure how they could get homicide from this if he didn't intend to kill the victim.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Witty_Username
Member since Jul 2021
627 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:17 pm to
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The cops don't do anything, then the state attacks a private citizen when he does something.

And then people wonder why public spaces are no longer safe.

Another reason I'm glad I don't live in a large city.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
65923 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:19 pm to
Will Biden's handlers threaten the jury as they did in the Chauvin case where they state emphatically during deliberations that they need to " do the right thing"?
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
87284 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:28 pm to
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The cops don't do anything, then the state attacks a private citizen when he does something.


Lately I've been pro-public vs pro-cop. And I found myself always defending cops until recently.

You see how the cops act in Portland and Seattle and NYC. It definitely changed my view of them.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3119 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:28 pm to
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Daniel Penny


Hero
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117358 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:31 pm to
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worked as a Michael Jackson impersonator


Worked is a very loose term here
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36475 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:33 pm to
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a 30-year-old Black man who worked as a Michael Jackson impersonator


idk why his race matters in this context

“worked”? that’s just an outright lie and completely gaslighting on the fact that this dude is a homeless criminal
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3302 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:35 pm to
After spending a little bit of time in NYC he is even more of a hero than I thought he was before I had been here. The fact that he tried to help people from these zombies is nothing short of a miracle in a city where no one gives a shite about anyone else in the first place. A lot of these crazy people do as they please and there is no help out there to stop them. Not guilty.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:36 pm to
The ethnic breakup of that jury will probably be everything
Posted by HenryParsons
Member since Aug 2018
1787 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:37 pm to
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Jordan Neely


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Neely had an extensive criminal record, including 42 arrests on charges including petty larceny, jumping subway turnstiles, theft, and three unprovoked assaults on women in the subway between 2019 and 2021.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
12075 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:53 pm to
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Attorneys for Penny, 26, who is white, say their client did not apply enough pressure for the hold to be deadly, while prosecutors argue he used excessive force to take the life of Neely, a 30-year-old Black man who worked as a Michael Jackson impersonator.


Why on earth do they do this shite?



Can someone please explain to me, why is it when talking about race, white isn’t capitalized, but black is?
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
30399 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:59 pm to
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Attorneys for Penny, 26, who is white, say their client did not apply enough pressure for the hold to be deadly,


I hope they have more of a defense than this.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
12075 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 1:01 pm to
Let’s be honest, no you don’t
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